Br 14 for Su27 and f15 all planes (all variants with fox 3) and br 13 for the ones without

The introduction of fox 3 have changed the game and the higher tiers are not what it’s used to fox 3 are superior to any and every kind of missiles in this game yet for reasons unknown the some planes are kept at 13.3 and 13.0 instead of lacking fox 3s this forces them to always play at low altitude and makes them and permanent mouse if there are fox 3 enemies.

Due to the drastic change of air engagement the planes with fox 3 should be moved to br14 less as the range of engagement has changed and it is very bad condition for those planes without fox 3 as at rank 8 having good airframe or speed does not matter if the plane has really good long range missile such as aim 120, r77, mica,darter,derby,pl12;etc

You would have to be at 10 km average for your missiles to hit yet they can engage you at 20km.

Having r27 , aim 7m can’t even compete with such kind of missiles as they can engage you from far and you would have to compensate for it badly

This is a situation where you will lose maximum times even if you try hard.

So I think f15a, su27 and other planes and their variants which do not have fox 3 to stay at br 13 and all the planes with fox 3 should be moved to a new br of 14

kek.

Lol?
Maybe Su-27 without R-27Er&ET will br fine at 13.0, like a MiG-29G but different
But thats not 12.7 level

YES F-15s SU-27s JAS-39s M4Ks ALL OF THEM MUST FACE THE J35 AND F-104s!1!1

I mean like are you brain dead? This is stupid man. The power creep in top tier is bad but this is dumbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb. Make max BR 14.3 and bump F-15, SU-27, Jas-39, M4K etc to 13.3.

Also get off your alt account troll.

This could be better actually

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When in doubt go up not down ;)

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Tbh I think the situation is fine as it is. You get more than enough downtiers to justify having to go up against fox3’s sometimes, which is defo more than doable.

A problem with ur implementation would be almost removing uptiers, which would lead to constant downtiers and make playing any lower br plane hell.

Queue times would sharply go up, and the varioty of games you’ll get will be way smaller. Almost always the same enemies, and either constant shitting on lower BR’s or going up against planes at the same br. (I.e su27 and gripen would dog on everything else like b4 the update)

They are also suffering badly as playing against fox 3 equipped planes is very hard if the enemy is skilled

But your argument is also true
Up or down someone will suffer 😕

I nearly always get up tiers with my stock f15a i can’t get kills because my aim7m´s get to the target just seconds to late before a aim 120 kills him i get just some time kills.
But when i jump in my f4e phantom i get more then one kill per round and survive the round i hate playing the f15a by now its just no fun constantly running from missiles and getting to late to the action to do something.

i think that something needs to happen but i have no clue accept for adding more vehicles that could fill the gape :/

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