eh, if all the US LTs that are events are anything to go by, there’s a good chance this ends up as an event tbh, hope not though. Everyone needs more TT LTs
Absolutly ugly imo, but shure.
lol ik that’s why i came up with the tittle, the turret looks pretty aberrant
I don’t want to rain on anyone’s parade but this should be in the French tech tree, especially after the introduction of the sub-tech tree of Belgium, Netherlands, and Luxemburg. The turret is a Belgium turret designed by Cockerill Cockerill® modular turret 3105 : Defense - John Cockerill and the hull was jointly developed by the Netherlands and Germany so in what way should this be in the German tech tree, this variant should stay with the sub-tree of Belgium, Netherlands, and Luxemburg. There are other variants to choose from that can go into the German tech tree this one makes no sense at this point.
its a beligum turret on a boxer chassis as much it has as much relations from both countries is not excluviely belgium, also take in count this wasnt put into service this was a demonstration of the turret in such chassis, and the vehicle was in fact tested by KMW in germany at one point
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I understand but it makes no sense to add to Germany alone rather this post should be updated to reflect this as a French option now with the addition of Belgium and the Netherlands to the French
there is a plausible option offered directly by cockerill themselves, they used an AMV 8X8 hull and offered it to spain but it was never bought, i tought specifically of this version because of its ties with germany and it was actively tested in germany, more than anything cuz of the tested in germany
because germany was the one that actualy build this variant? and not dutch or belgium?
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again build and tested by germany. Sth you should be aware of, suggestion mods dont accept suggestion to nations if they dont relate to that country.
This one was accepted specialy because it was done by germany
Additionaly even the benelux ground suggestion specialy didnt put it it into their tech tree ideas as tech tree /event or even premium, because they are aware they have the least claim in truth and only name it at the end
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I believe this is the only wheeled vehicle with a 105mm that Germany has a direct claim to, which also didn’t involve the Dutch or Belgian. Sure, other options exist, but none of them have the same link. I don’t understand why this should go to France if they already have wheeled 105mm vehicles (Vextra and AMX-10RC) and no direct link to this vehicle.
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Firstly as far as I’m aware this is an entirely German project, by your argument we should move the Finnish CV-CT 105HP to the Belgian tree. Secondly, there are other similar vehicles for Belgium anyway, there’s the DF90 armed Piranha which 100% needs to be added before we get to prototypes.
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an almost identical concept of the 3105 turret on the Austrian Pandur II (also has a nice side effect of keeping it with the Austrian SK105) for the Portuguese trials, not much info tbh fair, but not too much different.
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There’s defiantly more, Cockerill have put their turrets or sold their turrets to literally anyone and everyone.
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Whatever the case, let’s hope this vehicle gets added.
It should bring some diversity in making line ups at 10 ish br
im going all in for light vehicles due to the lack of them on tech trees honestly, that’s why i’ve been suggesting boxer platforms
Yeah there is no shortage of stuff that Cockerill turrets have been crammed into.
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ty, didnt expect it to be an actual thing for this event lol
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No.
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Exactly, case in point my cockerill post:
Even the 3105 turret on its own had already sold 200 units in its first year to multiple nations. Every single Cockerill turret with a 105HP gun (no joke) was trialed on the Belgian army Piranha IIIC anyway, so Belgium/France could get all the Cockerill prototype-turrets easily that way into the tech tree. The unique thing about the Belgian prototypes is that they are the only ones we can be certain of that the use the crazy MECAR M1060CV APFSDS round, so it would be more logical to have these versions in the Belgian/French Tech tree (Piranha IIIC or Piranha V or Leopard 1A5BE with the cockerill turrets).
There is/was never a need for these multi-company ventures to be added. You don’t want 30 vehicles with the 105HP gun in the same tech tree anyway. This addition to germany makes a lot of sense. :)
btw @UnHolySausage Good job on the post!
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Yeah and like i said in the post the only reason i suggested this was because of it’s German Hull, and that it was tested by KMW in Germany i really would like to see other cockerill in general for Benelux
you so smart prediction