I’m not talking about the recent controversies about THAT VT-4 here. I’m focusing on the battle rating of the new VT-4 which sits at 11.7 and the current VT-4A1.
In last BR updates Gaijin lifted MBT-2000 with its premium close copy Al-Khalid-1 to 11.3. If we compare VT-4 with MBT-2000, we can find out that the VT-4 isn’t that better than the current MBT-2000.
Its mobility is even worse since its weight has been increased and its power-to-weight ratio has dropped, and its reverse speed has been nerfed greatly since the new domestic powerpack didn’t use the same transmission of the original Ukrainian one.
The protection level didn’t change at all. The VT-4 has the same base composite armour structure as MBT-2000 and still keeps the FY-2 ERA on UFP and turret front. Its hull side remains unprotected.
There is also little difference between their firepower characteristics. They fire the same ammunition except for the GP-125 missile, and the reload rate remains 7.1s per round. Its depression angle is even worse than MBT-2000. The only obvious change is the new high-res TVD for both gunner and commander.
However, such little advantage should not be a reason that VT-4 has a higher BR than the MBT-2000.
And for the VT-4A1 the situation is similiar. It uses the same engine and transmission as VT-4 so the mobility performance doesn’t change. The firepower is the same one too. For protection, the VT-4A1 upgraded its ERA to FY-4 which is better than the original FY-2, but as we all know that it has a large UFP that is barely protected and can’t even stop 30mm APFSDS rounds, and there are multiple obvious weak spots in its hull and turret front, we can say that the protection level didn’t change significantly. The APS GL-6 is useful against some AGM or ATGM, but it is useless against other ammunitions, especially fnf rounds that attack its roof, and the APFSDS rounds.
So in my opinion the VT-4 should be lowered to 11.3 and folded under MBT-2000, while the VT-4A1 should be lowered to 11.7. Playing them in their current BR will be painful.
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The Vt4 and 4a1 are fine where they are
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Dont talk about vehicles that you dont own or used before.
VT4’S has serious features that lacks.
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vt4-a1 is pretty average compared to 99a and 1001
why VT4 is needed in the game at all is a complete mystery to me
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I like VT4’s over 99a family so its a huge W for me.
Problem is Gaijin implemented them in every wrong way, they lack:
Spall Liners
Proper Reverse Speed
Side ERA
UFP should ricochet
and other more things.
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Play the VT4A1 regularly.
And the VT4 will play almost identically, just minus the situational APS
still if they add all these features you a mentioned vt4 should go 12.0 immediatly
adding VT4 would be logical if they also changed its model to what you are talking about
like “we are adding a modeled tank right away and updating the model of the old one”
like they did with tiger (p)
Judging by your reaction you dont even know their problems, huh.
Both tanks should be 11.7 with their current problems VT4A1 doesnt deserved to be 12.0
Sadly i have little hopes for that to happen.
Nah, just that its a great tank at 12.0, despite some tradeoffs
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Its not great its pretty average, the only reason i grinded VT4A1 is because i like the design, otherwise 99A is much better in almost every way except lacking APS.
The difference in reverse speed is a nice bonus, but otherwise the three 12.0 china MBT’s play very similarly
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i dont think we needed a WEAKER VT4 while we already have a better variant ingame
i prefer the 99A over VT4s since they just feel better
Yeah no, ZTZ99A has better armor covarage and better overall armor which helps against incoming projectiles, not to mention reverse speed is huge difference between two tanks, its almost double.
If VT4A1 is as good as you claimed you wouldnt be struggle to past 2k/d ratio like you did with your soviet vehicles and VT5.
Get real please.
Its neat to have other variants though
Im glad that we’re getting another VT4 since its my favourite Chinese MBT, its just sad that none of the problems are getting fixed on Chinese MBT’s.
That’s the difference between stock grind and long spaded vehicles
And the VT5 released very undertiered anyway
130 respawn is more than enough to spade and achieve good k/d ratio, if the tank is as good as you claimed you wouldnt struggle even as stock.
As i 've said you’re just talking nonsense.
i guess the VT4A1 can be played good, could be i have a massive skill issue with it
but i prefer the ztz99A over it since it doesnt have a long hull like the VT4 and the turret feels like it doesnt have any armor, yes the ERA does help but without it it just feels weak