i think they are fine where they are now, if they are gonna go down they could stay at 10.0 and 10.3
PUMA before was good because it used to survive and resist lot of things, thats what made it special, the side armor on it was good and it had very good survivability.
Then idk what gaijin did but PUMA stopped being PUMA and started being a normal light tank which gets oneshoted and thats why people feel it should go down (i think ? )
yeah, that is convenient. Anyway, i have only played the normal puma and i need to research the rest of the VJTF and save up sl for it ( no premium no life)
PUMA is still a beefy but maneuverable boat boy, trolly armour for days. It still can find prey to kill, such as the odd ariete and the usual 2s38’s
I’m with you there sir. I have the SL, not the RP lol
I have the SL but i want to spend it in the mi24 before i get the puma, just because i want to grind 9.7. no worries, i’ll just pop 10 units wager until i get it
I have 2m SL, debating on getting the M1 AIM and starting America, but I’m just not feeling another 2 years, 1600 hours ya know.
to the people arguing about how theyre still too survivable to be lowered in br, the kf41 loses all of its armour for an APS system that works 0.3% of the time and hasnt been fixed since it was added. pretend i put a thumb emoji here.
This should be a good BR!
a bit of info regarding the KF-41 i have found info that would indicate the KF-41 hasnt sacrificed armor whatsoever and should still keep a very good chunk of armor for the aps
i feel ya
i agree, even if people say the br of the old PUMA is still high, it’s worth it since its just a stepping stone for the VJTF. i probably didn’t word that right, but i hope you get what i mean
Trade you the Dardo or Desert warrior or M3A3…PUMA is fine it doesnt have to be able to kill everything its an IFV use the scouting the 30mm dart when you have the opportunity.
Tandem ATGMs are a liability in game. The TOW 2B is the worse ATGM in game including the SPIKE and the TOW 2A for some reason cant defeat K5 or the Leopard 2A4/5 hull armour. Leaving you with a 25mm bushmaster which is terrible at the BR it currently is.
Lol.
Anyways; can you show me your stats with the Puma? :)
I would actually want to trade you Spikes for TOW-2As.
I haven’t got the PUMA, that doesn’t mean you don’t know how to kill it or what it’s strengths are.
It far surpasses the Bradley, Dardo and Desert Warrior, in every metric. It’s faster, its more armoured it has a 30mm gun not the 25mm it has is more survivable. As always though you are just a troll.
And yes the F-4F is always in top tier games 13.3 can see 13.7
Least they will eventually fix the SPIKE the TOW 2B has been a meme forever.
2A works 50% of the time but suffers in the environment every one has composite armour and it struggles with Russian ERA 90% of the time!
idc, 50% is better then the few times the Spike works, and again youre talking about the future which is completely irrelevant rn, atm the Spikes are worse then TOW-2As and thats what matters.
The problem lies in your aversion with the fact that we are trying to solve the problems of the PUMA,
furina or jecka however you wanna call him was using this as an example not as a direct comparison, the ERA of the PUMA and armor in general its underperforming massively having reliablity issues when it shouldnt be able to be pen’d frontally or sideways by 30 mm apfsds less the front wich its really weak compared to what it should be, currently spikes are very unreliable yeah i wont deny they work at times but this is only at times they wont assure me to get a kill and i really dont hope to get a kill but to at least disable someone, quite frankly rn the issue its attempting to fix the puma underperforming specially if you do it like it did at 10.0 having to fight fully armored MBT’s with only an autocannon and reminder that even tho its more armored and survivable than your average ifv its still an ifv its not gonna do much against a full caliber apfsds and its pretty easy to kill because it dosent have atgm’s and its kinda of the same issue with the KF-41 the only justification to go to 0.7 its the spikes and the aps and that’s about it
i feel tanks such as the PUMA the PUMA S1 and the KF-41(specially this one) are in the wrong BR, fighting, but also this is a balancing nightmare i have taken into consideration other tanks that could fight it and that’s an issue, what we need its a BR decompression since putting them lower would also be bad for tanks at 9.3 to fight the PUMA S1 and KF-41 or 8.3 to fight the PUMA, considering some light tanks at that BR will have it hard
were already at 13.7 in air, why isnt ground at 13.7 as well, why does it have to be stuck at 11.7???
I really dont get it