tbf, they should be dropped until gaijin stops pretending they dont know their armor scheme for the Puma is massively underperforming…
The same PUMA “armor” that turns to swiss cheese when it sees any dart?
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How long has the KF41 been at 10.7 with no fixes?
They ain’t fixing it, move the vehicle down.
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That would first require Gaijin to stop being a literal wall that pretends to not hear what we say, since Puma’s and KF41s introductions to the game, very little about them has been fixed, the latter is now ~2.5 years old with the only meaningful ‘fix’ up to date being a partially working MUSS, the former is ~1 year old with no fixes still.
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Compare the 10.0 puma to other 9.3 ifvs, make sure to include armor and irst. Most 9.3 have similar weapons but lack the armor and the irst so again, puma shouldn’t be the same br as them.
9.3, the 9035 denmark is 9.7
Absolutely nothing warrants the S1 to be 10.7 (in its current state), unless the armor, AHEAD, APS and the woefully underperforming SPIKES are fixed and implemented properly.
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If it gets everything else and spikes fixed it should be higher than 10.7 as it is better than the Lynx.
IRST isn’t even that relevant since AHEAD is basically useless as an anti-air round.
Irst is relevant as the CV9035NL went down to 9.7 from 10.0 because they removed air tracking
But it will go up to what? 11.0? That’s a big no for an IFV, there is no lineup to speak of and its armor and features would start to underperform.
That’s on paper, and Gaijin also thinks that the SPIKE, an ATGM that is by all means woefully inferior to BMP-2Ms Kornet, warrants a 0.7 BR increase over the normal Puma.
It’s already underperforming even at 10.0 since most IFVs have tandem ATGMs, and in some cases, have KE rounds powerful enough to ignore Puma’s armor, not to mention pretty much every MBT has APFSDS there as well, making the armor irrelevant (+, if your firerate is high enough, you can just shoot the front and your APFSDS will simply phase through, in addition, only a portion of the upper plate can actually resist 30mm KE rounds).
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Compression is the real problem here but againit is still a better vehicle than the lynx even now just not by a large margin. If the armor and such is fixed then yes it should be higher. Rn both vehicles are overtiered because of spikes
Precisely, I think their current BRs would make a lot of sense if they were implemented properly, but Gaijin is as Gaijin does.
So they aren’t listening to us. But we are going to tell them to lower the Br. Will they listen?
No, they won’t listen to anything we say, it’s been this way for years.
Gaijin is a literal wall.
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hmm yeah, this might also work, even though the normal puma is a higher br its still quite alright if you know how to play it
Again, at least they foldered them :D
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i am not very familiar with swedish autocannon vehicles, but on a glance it does look more worthy of 9.3
Have you properly played the vehicle? i’m not the best at playing it and i have experienced moments where there’s 5 or so guys struggling to kill it. sure, it’s not that hard to kill when you know where the crew is, but the fact is that it’s a very, very hard vehicle to kill, and i’ve found that its armour is almost comparable to the leo2a4 in terms of how much of a beating it can take. frontally, you will almost never be killed, only disabled