BMPT/72 Should not be 10.3

Jumbo 4.7

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this, I would probably also add the T95 in a downtier.

The amount of times I’ve fragged T95 via cupola using Tiger 2s has exceeded 10, probably over 20. I lost count.
10.3 doesn’t see APHE anymore, so I’d say the BMPT is stronger for the BR.

That is fair, I usually get volumetric-ed when I go for the cupolas. probably just my shitty luck though.

actually you do see APHE because as it’s often the case now you get all vs all matches at that BR so technically you can count 2s38 in the enemy team with APHE

Well if we add some condition AGS or M1128 hull down is really difficult to deal with a lot of vehicles could be difficult to deal for downtiers like Ho-Ri production, Panthers, Tiger 2, German KV with 75, Excelsior, Churchill 7 etc.

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So I have some time to play like 1-2 more games before I need to leave to work. This was the first game in my SEPv1 and SEPv2 after I logged back on (and yes, matched against Russia like you asked). Not the best game I have played, I’ll give you that, but still not a bad game overall.

Spoiler

https://warthunder.com/en/tournament/replay/422981882688944797

EDIT: second game was a 7:0 K:D win, but the enemy team collapsed so quickly that most of those kills were around their spawn, so I’m not counting that one.

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Harrier GR.1 was the last time and that was fixed pretty bloody quick. Unlike the MiG 23ML which went for years at a lower BR

What are you talking about? The Abrams’s mobility is equal to or even worse than that of top-tier Soviet tanks and other MBTs. The T-90’s firepower is so powerful that it can destroy an Abrams practically anywhere. But to destroy a T-90M, the Abrams has to target vulnerable spots, which are very, very random.
How many times have I shot at the weak spot of a T-90 or T-80 and it simply didn’t do any damage? In fact, if you look closely, the T-90M and T-80BVM are the most armored MBTs in the game.

What are the advantages of the in-game T-90M and T-80BVM?

  1. Multilayer armor.

  2. Spall liner throughout the tank.

  3. Protected gun mantlet.

  4. Mobility.

  5. Broken armor.

Great, I’ll see when I finish the job.

Holy cope. The majority of the T-series mobility isn’t even close to the mobility of the Abrams, only the BVM comes close to when it comes to the Abrams in forward mobility.

T-90M is a joke mobility wise.

T-series firepower is mediocre at best lol. Especially on the T-90M.

Here I highlighted a very important part:

YOU. It’s quite obvious at this point that your aim is at best mediocre.

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even with a really good autocanon like the CTC40 you cant do anything

Are you serious? The T-80BVM has long since outpaced the top-of-the-line Abrams. The T-90M has the same speed as the Abrams.

This is enough for the T-90M to destroy the Abrams without even looking, simply by firing below its turret.

I saw you haven’t played Toptir in a while. The Abrams is one of the slowest tanks on Toptir.

So Bradley has no chance?

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Abrams mobility is superior to all Soviet tanks in War Thunder.
M1A2 SEP with TUSK is even marginally superior to the over-performing T-80BVM mobility:
30: 3
40: 6
50: 10
-38 reverse.
Traverse: 9

T-80BVM:
30: 4
40: 7
50: 10
-11 reverse.
Traverse: 7

T-90M is worse than M1A2 SEP2 with the mine plate attached.
T-90’s firepower is equal to that of M60 AMBT.
T-90M’s weakspots are always the same spots: Breech, lower plate, and side armor on urban maps.

The T-80BVM isn’t even in the top 10 most armored tanks in the game.
T-80U is at least a bit more armored than BVM, and that’s 7 tanks right there.

And tanks more armored than T-90M: Strv 122 x3 firing equivalent rounds while being more mobile.

However, this is just a distraction from BMPT being OP.
BMPT’s T-72B like armor is causing issues because the turret ammo isn’t modeled correctly, and the turret is semi-recessed like Object 775.

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youre having a laugh if you think a 25mm bushmaster is a fair matchup. the 30mm bush, denel 30mm and mk30/2 are still not able to hold a candle to the terminators firepower either.

Even side on the CTC40 is having issues from my own engagements with terminators

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T-90M ± on par with Challenger 2 in terms of mobility. Without reverse ofc.

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The developers changed the tank’s horizon from 12.7, which is very difficult to penetrate even with a top-tier tank, to 10.3. This is insane.
This Terminator has such strange armor that top-tier MBTs barely penetrate it.

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The developers changed the tank’s horizon from 12.7, which is very difficult to penetrate even with a top-tier tank, to 10.3. This is insane.
This Terminator has such strange armor that top-tier MBTs barely penetrate it.

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