Then they should fix this for every vehicle not just the bmpt or it’s now the same as every other vehicle which means it’s fixed according to the standards of every other vehicle that explodes when ammo belts or atgms are shot
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¯_(ツ)_/¯ You’ll survive not holding W to win, eveyone else has to
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Unrelated but i guess you got nothing better to say
Nope, i’m incredibly happy you have fun now
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“The blast from exploding an atgm over these will NEVER pen, that’s totally normal.”
Source?
Because we have video evidence of these things going pop with relatively small HEAT charges impacting the hatches and causing catastrophic total vehicle loss. Much less the force of FOUR Ataka ATGMS detonating immediately above the hull roof.
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40mm armor on the top of the unmanned turret, where the hatches are. (The hatches being the weakest point - so any explosion only has to ‘punch’ through 40mm.
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40mm of turret armor. Doesn’t matter if it’s 2000mm - the 40mm weakpoints remain,
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Spaced armor. (There is no spaced armour on the hatches.)
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Composite armor (There is no Composite Armour on the hatches).
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ERA (There is no ERA on the hatches).
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Around a meter separating the hull from the ATGM tubes. (Do the Russians use a different Metre to the rest of the planet - because…
Look where the commander’s cupola is in relation to those ATGMs…
BMPT-72 is no different. Unless the crew enter the vehicle via Osmosis - the weak ingress/egress points on the hull roof are immediately below four very potent explosive warheads.
What are you talking about? You do know how HEAT works right? It doesnt shoot out in every direction, it shoots in front to pen whatever it hits. The atgm exploding in the tubes does not trigger a HEAT jet, it just explodes, said explosions wouldn’t pen, at least in game, because of armor.
Point is that there is space in between, which influences overpressure.
Also technically the ATGMs we’re talking about have 38mm of overpressure pen, which means it wouldnt overpressure anywhere on BMPT. Your video evidence doesn’t show at all where exactly the drone hit. If you have actual data, feel free to share them with the devs in a bug report.
If BMPTs are dying, then its a good thing.
hitting the ammo belt and only destroying a section is the biggest bullshit of this thing.
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Do YOU know how HEAT works? Because you seem to think that a HEAT round detonating just has an effect immediately in front of it. Oh dear. Oh dear oh dear oh dear…
This is an RPG-round - it is a HEAT round. It has 730g of explosive charge. Would you seriously tell me that you’d be fine stood to the side or anywhere near that detonation even though ‘it only shoots in front to pen’.
A SINGLE Ataka has almost 5 times that amount of explosive. Plus the propellant of the ATGM rocket motor. Multiplied by a factor of up to four if none of the ATGMs have been fired at the time of detonation.
Now, about those 40mm hatches…
Bugged or not bugged, BMPT’s are a cancer.
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I would love to see proof the 40mm hatches can survive this kind of explosion, if it can be provided i will be quiet however it must be from a reputable source not a propaganda channel - maybe some documents or government approved test footage (oh wait that could be classed as propaganda too they gotta pump those numbers)
You really just be yapping for the sake of it aren’t you? Fine, let me explain with some pictures, maybe that’ll get to you.
This is the side profile of a BMPT:
These are the ATGM launchers in question:
Notice something? How they are oriented? Yes indeed! they are not oriented towards the crew compartment! You wouldn’t want to shoot an ATGM on your own tank now would you!
Let’s take the video you sent. Let’s see what happens when the HEAT warhead hit the wall.
You can see that the HEAT jet, what actually CAN penetrate armor is following the SAME direction as the round.
Let’s go back to the BMPT. What happens when the ATGM fuse is triggered? The HEAT jet is unleashed. Where does it go? That’s right! Forward!
But that’s not it right? What about overpressure which in game goes everywhere around the impact area and penetrates weak armor? Let’s examinate the BMPT’s armor then, shall we?
When overpressure hits this part, it does nothing, as it is outside the tank, even if it pens, it cooks off the grenade launcher ammo, no harm done:
When overpressure his this part, it has to go over 40-60mm of armor (sometimes even more, up to the 200s mm). No pen.
Covering the weak roof armor, we have spaced armor:
Under that we have Composite armor:
Above the armor, we have ERA:
Wait, what about the hatches?
Yep, you ain’t penning these with overpressure.
What about the turret itself?
Yep, still no pen.
Wait a second, how much overpressure pen do the ATGMs have?
Ouuuh shi 👀
So the Heat Jet of the rockets (which is what could pen the roof) doesnt ever touch the roof, and the overpressure from the rockets can’t pen.
Any other questions?
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“Any other questions?”
Just one.
Did you go to school and learn basic science? Do they offer refunds?
Because using War Thunder (a computer game with all the limitations that entails) as a guide as to actual explosion dynamics isn’t a good substitute.
Well you clearly can’t read, can’t help you with that.
I’m clearly showing you the GAME in the pictures, the only thing I compared to IRL is how HEAT warheads work, which are very similar if not the same in-game. If you’re not happy with how game mechanics work, feel free to make a suggestion in the forums about that, offer an alternative, back it up with sources. In no way I am comparing real life to war thunder.
I also clearly stated that if you have actual sources instead of “trust me bro” you can open a ticket.
Right here:
I’ll take that as a ‘No’ then…
My commiserations.
Need to make puma, namer, lynx, boxer atgms explode entire tank as well I guess
Ragebait or low IQ, call it.
Also next time, make sure to reply to my message so I get notified, instead of hiding like that.
No no, just BMPT, cuz he doesn’t know how to kill it still, half a year after its been released.
The M901 dies if it takes shots to the launcher even if it’s been fired. It’s similar with all ATGM Tank Destroyers as a gaming convention since they would otherwise be hard to destroy in some locations since they could go hull down.