BMPT/72 BR Topic

Are you serious? The T-80BVM has long since outpaced the top-of-the-line Abrams. The T-90M has the same speed as the Abrams.

This is enough for the T-90M to destroy the Abrams without even looking, simply by firing below its turret.

I saw you haven’t played Toptir in a while. The Abrams is one of the slowest tanks on Toptir.

So Bradley has no chance?

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Abrams mobility is superior to all Soviet tanks in War Thunder.
M1A2 SEP with TUSK is even marginally superior to the over-performing T-80BVM mobility:
30: 3
40: 6
50: 10
-38 reverse.
Traverse: 9

T-80BVM:
30: 4
40: 7
50: 10
-11 reverse.
Traverse: 7

T-90M is worse than M1A2 SEP2 with the mine plate attached.
T-90’s firepower is equal to that of M60 AMBT.
T-90M’s weakspots are always the same spots: Breech, lower plate, and side armor on urban maps.

The T-80BVM isn’t even in the top 10 most armored tanks in the game.
T-80U is at least a bit more armored than BVM, and that’s 7 tanks right there.

And tanks more armored than T-90M: Strv 122 x3 firing equivalent rounds while being more mobile.

However, this is just a distraction from BMPT being OP.
BMPT’s T-72B like armor is causing issues because the turret ammo isn’t modeled correctly, and the turret is semi-recessed like Object 775.

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youre having a laugh if you think a 25mm bushmaster is a fair matchup. the 30mm bush, denel 30mm and mk30/2 are still not able to hold a candle to the terminators firepower either.

Even side on the CTC40 is having issues from my own engagements with terminators

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T-90M ± on par with Challenger 2 in terms of mobility. Without reverse ofc.

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The developers changed the tank’s horizon from 12.7, which is very difficult to penetrate even with a top-tier tank, to 10.3. This is insane.
This Terminator has such strange armor that top-tier MBTs barely penetrate it.

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The developers changed the tank’s horizon from 12.7, which is very difficult to penetrate even with a top-tier tank, to 10.3. This is insane.
This Terminator has such strange armor that top-tier MBTs barely penetrate it.

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I have played top tier as recently as yesterday night and 3 gamss this morning lmao.

This is just false lol, the T-90M doesn’t even come close to the Abrams. Maybe if you would drop the stupid TUSK package your SEPv2 would actually be mobile.

However if you are actually going to handicap yourself willingly by carrying that trash, you have no right to complain about mobility lol.

A single word: reload.

Anything with a 7.1 second reload instantly becomes mid at top tier, especially when it’s shell is already on the weaker side.

Why would he need to reload? He’d just fire at the Abrams, and even if the Abrams survived the hit, everything inside would be destroyed.

Why would the Abrams get hit in the first place?

See, I can also do that.

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Holy damn, this forum thread is already at 1.3k messages??

Whats the general consensus on BMPT’s current BR.

  • go up to 10.7/11.0?

Or

  • stay at 10.3?
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10.7/11.0 for me. Although I’m leaning slightly towards 11.0 personally.

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Because the Abrams can’t simply fire directly at the T-90M; it needs time to target weak spots. And if the T-90M also rotates its turret and moves, the Abrams has a very high chance of missing. Meanwhile, the T-90M simply fires somewhere in the Abrams’ direction and destroys or disables it.

If they push it to 11.0, maybe a small buff regarding accuracy in order but would be still balanced if youre pushing it 0.7+ in battle rating. Would be close to getting bonked by some of the 12.0s

And still can dominate downtier whenever.

11.7 perfect

T-90M is shit lol now I can’t even decide where it should be placed after playing quite a little bit of Merkavas 4 and even finding the China WZ1001 to be overall better due to mobility and shell velocity, if I have to rate the T-90M won’t even be in top five, it will always be under BVM and which I currently rate it under Merkavas and Abrams.

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With the awesome mobility of the Abrams, being caught in a position where the T-90M can shoot you means you already made a couple possible mistakes.

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The lower frontplate of any T-72/80/90 is a ggwp spot. Similar to the abrams with their lower front plate. Both ways, these tanks are around the same level, and weaker generally vs something like a 2A78. Also abrams getts better pen and reverse speed.

What youre saying is kinda rage bait

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Worst thing is, I think he is serious about it.

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Lolol.

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