Dont tell me you were comparing the autocannons… whats the point with that if the important armament of the bmpt its the ATGMs.
As a Namer player highly doubt it most of your kills with spikes were 1 shot, only against light armored tanks, but mbts like leopard?? doubt.
Ok so leopard 2a7 should go to 10.3 - 11.3 because its easy to kill from the sides, but difficult from the front?
Ground launched FnF are unreliable as hell tho, they work quite well against lightly armored vehicles, but otherwise they work like 1/3 times, and the Jaguar for exemple got only 4 missiles onboard, making them a backup or a last resort at best
Source: me, who played quite a decent amount of matches with the EBRC
No need to tell me i spaded my Puma VJTF against my better judgement but FnF missiles are still a big boon compared to beam riding ones that expose you to enemy fire
So what about everyone else? There is more than 10 MBTs the BMPT can see.
And thats just at 10.X. Ive been playing CR1, with 400mm of pen of late (L23A1)
I cant even imagine what the hell a 9.3 is meant to do against a BMPT
huh https://www.reddit.com/r/TankPorn/comments/18rhd2y/first_recorded_bradley_tow2b_destroying_russian/
It’s T72B3 armour dude, not just B armour on the BMPT 72
I mean namers armour is hugely under performing as was proven years ago.
8.7 i think on the shturm they’re found.
however they are extremely fast as well for the BR.
BMP3 should be 9.7 easily but, and thats from having experience with the thing.
Also BMPT has gen 2 thermals on commander and gnner sights.
TBh this I gotta agree with 100 percent, they really gotta start taking a look at the BRs better when adding a lot of vehicles, they just kinda throw em in there RN and hope for the best. T58 being one such case in recent memory I have.
Is its armour a bug? or is it literally supposed to be this good.
Idler wheel, turret ring, lower front plate… Same weakspots people should be use to.
@H_ngma
So I don’t get to have the only opinion, and same exact opinion of BMPT moving up I’ve had on the vehicle for the last couple days? What a weird demand.
Black Night is a higher BR than Challenger 2…
T-80UM2 is a higher BR than T-80UD, it’s also an event vehicle that can easily avoid BR increases [see M60 AMBT].
@gfdsa_killer
People are disabling with cannons first, then after they determined they can’t finish off a tank with the autocannon will they use an ATGM.
Not sure why you’re making a weird take about 2A7.
Also the whataboutism meme is supposed to be “Alright Alvis, since you want BMPT moved up because it has good armor; does that mean you want Leopard 2A7 moved up as well because it has good armor?”
@An_Pigeon
The hull armor array of T-72B - 90M does not change.
And yeah, I’ve been saying Namer armor has been underperforming since dev server.
@StaszekJones
Me having an aiming issue is not me being “Gaijin’d”. I’m not a child that needs to blame others because I aimed poorly.
And T-90M objectively has more armor, that’s just a fact.
BMPT should move up, and you guys can keep arguing all you want, but I won’t change that stance.
I still reckon the BR was decided so that it would 100% be strong, just ahead of Christmas where people may have some disposable income to buy the Premium version.
Hopefully a BR change is early January, but im not holding my breath as they probably will milk the BMPT for a while
So whilst every MBT is aiming for tiny Weakspots (that can only be seen if the tank isnt hull down) the BMPT is just shredding eveything. The typical “jsut aim for the microscopic weakspot, its perfectly balanced” answer.
By that logic, can the CR2 be 10.3 and to kill it you just have to aim for the weakspots? Perfectly balanced
Those weakspots are no where close to tiny. What’s tiny is the driver’s port people say to go for instead, while the turret ring is 8x larger…
yes you dont get to say that you totally want it to go up after stating that the most obviously undertiered ground vehicle since the release Puma is a “hard guess where it should be” and that you “can see where they were coming from with the BR they introduced this rather unique vehicle at”
its the same BR as the Challenger2E you know the one its foldered with
Same BR as the T80U
So no the T72B3A is not .6 higher because of APS but because of Relict
@H_ngma
T-80U has thermals, and would be a false equivalence fallacy for me to compare it to something without thermals.
Challenger 2E has vastly higher mobility than the Challenger 2 and Black Night.
Also if BMPT was introduced at a similarly OP BR as the Puma, the BMPT would currently be ~9.3.
Puma is 2BRs higher than it use to be, and is currently arguably over-BR’d.
I don’t get why you’re quoting me calling out Gaijin’s mistakes as something bad.
Me calling out Gaijin’s mistakes by empathizing with them, and wanting them to do better is something I won’t feel bad doing.
I also have to know how they made that mistake to better criticize it.
T-72B3 has Relikt as well, and has better ERA coverage than B3A.
If you’re talking UFP, then sure one has K5, but K5 isn’t as different to Relikt as you’re implying.
Weird it has difficulty to pen the turret where the 30mm belts are, thats the part with the lowest armor.
I never claimed that it is as under BRed as the Puma was just that’s it’s the most blatant under BR since then.
It’s a cashgrab it’s not that deep, no need to emphasize since it’s not a mistake. It’s completely obvious that it’s under BRed but it’s already selling like crazy so Gaijin did everything right from their POV.
It’s a 67% increase in KE protection. That’s an insane step up in armor
I ammo racked one with the Ajax a little while ago when hitting that exact spot. I think he was as surprised as I was.
Got another by detonating his fuel frontally when I couldn’t see his lower frontal plate which was… weird.
Exactly the video I need to prove my points.
Thank you.
Fair. I appreciate the clarification, good man.
Also statcard data on ERA is wrong, always.
Gaijin has never really focused on fixing ERA statcards.
This is the dumbest take I’ve read in the forum this year, and that’s saying a lot.
@ItsOnyy You didn’t quote any take of mine.
You quoted me repeating what I witnessed.
Witnessing things is not a take.
A take would be me saying “Spikes seem inconsistent based on what you told me and what I witnessed.”
