BMPT/72 BR Topic

The crew is not the only difference here.

One has more crew, the other lacks commander view completely, balances out that way. If the ICV had commanders view it would be 10.0.

But funny enough, relevant to this topic, if you shoot the ICV into the turret, you will most like take out the whole vehicle, even though it’s an unmanned one just like the Terminators, where if you shoot them into the turret, usually does nothing of significance.

Forgot to say: the RCV should be moved up to 10.0, but it wont because of the lineups.

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you’ll give a fig when you see that su57 is higher BR than those

Knowing Gaijin they’ll just give the F-22, J-20 and Su-57 the same RCS, so the BR Really comes down to tech.

If they add a modernized F-22 like what’s currently being done with IRST and HMD it might sit at a BR with the Felon, But if it’s a basic F-22 with no HMD? Yeah, no way that’s coming close to production Su-57 (in game.)

I don’t know much about the J-20, but I’d assume it’s much like the Su-57, just without any gun.

su57 higher BR because of R-37M (similar case with IRIAF fakour always going up in BR) and side radars (guide R-37M while RTB) and LDIRCM (immune to MICA-IR & ASRAAM etc) + 360° IRST (like F-35 DAS)

Immune in game probably, due to the incredibly amateur and shoddy job they did with the lidircm.

In reality its useless against a reasonably modern missile.

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I can’t wait for that…

Given how desperate UAC is to sell the thing to anyone with enough currency - their marketing brochures basically go overboard on the claims (which Gaijin will ofc accept without any question).

  • It goes Mach 3! No wait - Mach 4.
  • It’s invisible.
  • It has laser beams that come out the pilots eyes!
  • It can also transform into a tank.
  • It actually works!

I know, that last one is a bit out-there even for Russian Manufacturer claims. You get the idea.

If they find a half-eaten crayon drawing out there that says it can do any of the above - you can more or less be certain it’ll do it in WT. Oh goody…

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@PyroAddict This. We’ve given what we have. However, we can’t create feedback out of nowhere. We have to wait for this particular issue.

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They need to raise the BMPT to 12.7 - 13.0 or completely rework the damagemodel

This simply ignores the core issue, have you seen much of a difference in performance between the BMPT at 10.3 and at 11.7? The issue is its hull-down performance

Asking to move the BMPT up in br is like a child “cleaning” their room by hiding the mess under their bed.

Looks ok at first glance, doesn’t do shit about the actual problem

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you can say that again, how the hell does this not take out the breech?

Putting it UP in BR means it is against stronger opposition. More 2A7+s. More CAS that can potentially limit it’s ability to sit in a spot all game.

Keeping it where it is - that is just wrecking the 10.7+ bracket (since inevitably - anyone playing is getting sucked up to 11.7). It could easily go to the absolute top tier and I don’t think anyone (besides those enjoying stomping everything in their BMPTs) would shed a tear.

Gaijin have had months to fix the damage model and seem to be doing everything else but.

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Simply a universal game bug

/s ?

thats a lie??? ive had this happen on multiple occasions where the bmpt’s breech just phases my round

Yet it doesn’t just happen to the BMPT, I’ve on multiple occasions been shot directly from the side and had nothing damaged even though the hit file showed obvious spalling

i have never shot somethings breech and have it do literally nothing other than the bmpt

edit: i can recall it happening like twice in my 2 years of playing on T80s

I gotta hand it to the forum moderation team. Them keeping this topic open is a blessing.

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they only close duplicate topics and ones that go too out of hand
They have no reason to close this one