They are also incredibly small targets AND there’s not enough metal around them to generate spall damage to damage them that way.
No idea how you arrived at the conclusion that anyopne thinks only super dominant vehicles get moved, but its certainly not weak ones.
They were already wrong three times when it comes to the BMPTs BR, no idea why youre adamant that they are right this time.
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Enjoying the heavy ERA / armor on the Challenger ?
I can feel the strength through my screen. Truly god like modelling by Gaijin
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you shoot down the middle of the turret between both breeches it will do no damage 99% of the time
The BMPT-72 should be 12.0
The BMPT should be 12.7
though they should do neither of those things instead they should remove the bmpt rework the vehicles entire damage model and bring it back in a way where its not ruining its br bracket
after 3 months whiteout playing I see this trash is still not nerfed, 11.7 means nothing, it needs top br 13. Way to ruin a game gajin, I understand they need money but this is too much. IRL BMPT was made only to support tanks in city and forest areas against infantry only due to the gun depression limits on T tanks. I am a main soviet/german player but this BMTP in this game is idiotic and is totally p2w.
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You know I’m enjoying it more than the DS
The armour does hold up alot better than I expected after all the doom and gloom on various forums/reddit - he wouldn’t of needed the missiles to kill the CR1
The clip shows how I was feeling after a 9 game losing streak, truly had enough and just holding W, every game ruined by terminators holding caps on their own - maybe if I’d stopped, peaked the corner, pre aimed blah blah blah, not really what you want leaving spawn but that’s a whole other conversation….
But my god I am sick to death of shooting them in the side and doing virtually no damage
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No shit Sherlock.
Calling BMPTs dominant because they moved up in BR is a bogus statement.
Keep in mind BMPTs are one of a kind vehicles which are obviously hard to balance at first. Months have passed, they got moved up by two steps in one update, data has been gathered and it seems like Gaijin is reluctant to place them at 12.0, let alone 12.7.
Your statement would have a much stronger point if we were discussing this in January, but it’s May already and dust has definitely settled, making things more clear.
That said, radical BR changes are more and more unlikely the more time has passed in such a data driven balancing system.
Doesn’t change the fact you can breach them.
Yes, you can, but it’s much less likely to happen compared to other vehicles. The reason people complain about them is this:
The chassis is essentially a T-90M. The T-90M has 3 primary weakspots frontally. The LFP, Driver’s hatch, and cannon breech. The BMPT removed the breech option and made the driver’s port unreliable. If they hide the LFP and are hull down, where’s the weakspot to aim at? That’s why there’s complaints, because it make the same weakpoints much harder to utilize. You may be a perfect player who can consistently hit the weakpoints with 0 issue, but you do not represent the majority of players who go up against them.
Yes I know, which is why I said that BMPTs without armor would be Temu BMP-2Ms. Their armor carried them to 11.7.
mostly damage model, not armor
so you get 1 breech then he shoots you with his other gun or fires a missile am i getting that right?
Doesn’t change anything I’ve said.
Not necessarily? Them being moved up doesnt automatically mean that they are dominant but other non dominant vehicles being moved up doesnt automatically make the BMPTs non dominant.
Yeah not shit, if Gaijin completely removes the only massive disadvantage of a vehicle then it gets hard to balance. This entire situation is Gaijins own doing.
Yes because it makes them money and pampers russia, if Gaijin had the slightest bit of actual interest in balancing the BMPTs then they would fix the obviously broken damage model, that they themselves patched to be broken in the first place instead of slowly creeping it up in BRs.
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it makes what you said useless because it doesnt change anything fighting the vehicle and also just because you “can” doesnt mean you will
I don’t agree.
If something moves up by a single BR while not being good enough to move up two, I would think twice before calling it so dominant.
If BMPTs and PUMA at initial BRs were dominant, then this situation is far from that.
One of a kind in terms of it’s layout as we never had an autocannon vehicle with such a good armor layout.
It’s definitely Gaijin’s fault for not realizing it’s similar to BMP-2M firepower wise but with extremely better armor, placing it at 11.0 or something on launch.
Premium one can easily be at a different BR as it’s not the same vehicle as TT one.
So yeah, almost half a year passed and Gaijin definitely gathered enough data by now to see if they’re obnoxiously strong or not. I don’t know why you tried to discredit their last public statement made on BMPTs by using their ignorance at release, as those are two separated things.
That’s what she said
That statement assumes that the last increase to 11.7 is enough which is pure conjecture considering the last 2 BR increases.
No one of a kind in terms of making up an ammo layout and therefore turning a tradeoff/weakness of the BMPT into a pure advantage. Gaijin has been extremely careful when it comes to unmanned turrets after the release Puma just to forego all that care with the BMPT.
Yeah one makes money, the other pampers, both fulfill their purpose. I have no idea why Gaijin insists on keeping them the same BR.
Release, first Br change and second BR change, lets not pretend they were wrong only once.
What’s wrong? you penned with the OFL 120 G1?
Looks like it was also angled up so I don’t see what you’re trying to prove here.