Ah I see, he’s using full stats. That’s not going to help anything
Oh hell no, this is a joke. Not when 2a7/122s, m1a2, c2bn, leclerc or type 10 exist. Even if person who said that has 15kd.
Speaking of bmpt. If developer refuses to impove other autocannon+atgm carriers like puma, kf41 etc. Then developer should nerf bmpt until it gets similar stats - below 1 kd. Would be fair for all imo.
Don’t forget the Ariete AMV
You’re right, the BMPT should be 14.0 so it can only go against other BMPT.
For multiple reasons this vehicle is still overtuned, going up in BR will not help, they will just slowly push it to top tier until they realise that it needs a fundamental rework.
It’s very unreliable to kill even from the side. Shooting the ammo does nothing it can still shoot and it doesn’t blow up since the ammo is split into multiple models in the vehicle. You can’t shoot the launcher or disable its guns since it has both launchers and barrels on both sides so it will still be able to shoot back. The tech tree variant has 5 crew that sits split up in their own little boxes so it’s pretty hard sometimes to one-shot. If one of these vehicles finds a hull down position it is simply invincible.
Other than that this vehicle completely destroys the matchmaker at 11.7 now since there are like 100 Russia nation players searching for a game, 16 USA players, 10 Germany players and the other nations have between 1-6. So the only nation you are matched against is Russia. Since many players buy premium at 11.7 this will be very very boring for too many people to only get match against a single nation match after match after match.
Why are we all debating BRs when the entire problem is the insanely broken damage model?
Fix. The. Goddam. Model. And then we can talk about where the BMPT deserves to be BR wise. Right now it literally does not matter whether it’s fighting a 10.3 CV90 or a 12.7 2A7V, as long as its hull down none of the 2 will be able to reliably kill it.
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Precisely, the BR problem is a waste of time. The damage model needs a total refactoring, the fact that it can take as much damage as it currently does should not be a thing. From the “external belts” to ERA being able to deflect and degrade top tier APFSDS to almost nothing. The BR bump has made top tier even more unbearable, and the BMPT spam has killed all desire I had to play.
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but according to the people “its so easy to kill trough the hull” this isnt even the first time i’ve had it happen where the hull ammo just explodes and does absolutely nothing
You did miss that shot unfortunately. You should of aimed for the head
joke
It looks like it ate it which unfortunately happens from time to time.
Sure, 12.7 vs 12.0
And the community is still filled with two-faced members that get on their malding sprees fueled by ignorance and IRL biases.
Irrelevant.
Those BMPT stats were recorded at 11.3 though.
I was hoping that’s simple enough to understand.
And they didnt get much worse since then, so clearly it can go up
More likely 12.0 vs 11.7.
We have no idea how they’ll perform at 11.7 in comparison to 11.3.
Even Gaijin thought about moving them to 12.0 but they backed out of it for the time being. Something worthy of 12.7 should definitely have good enough stats to be moved up from 11.3 to 12.0 in a single update.
The data in question for Gajin
Nope, 12.7 and 12.0
It’s definitely going to end up at 12.7 or maybe 12. Crazy how an HSTVL is at 12 with this BMPT being released so low.
My guess is once the money stops rolling in they’re going to “fix” the modeling and it’ll become just another tank until they release the next META with a premium regardless of nation.
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Exactly the same minus a few percentages.
They are still fighting 12.0 clickbaits and every other tank with high pen rounds at that BR.
This just brings them into uptiering against some of the 12.7 tanks.
They still melt their barrels immediately.
People were already using them at top tier 12.7+ battles…
#1 2A7/122
#2 Abrams
#3 Merkava Mk.4
#4 Leo 2A5/6
#5 Leclerc
Abrams can be swapped with 2A7/122 and Leclerc can be swapped with 2A5/6, it depends on what you prefer.
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Don’t be silly now, Abrams’ is clearly #1.
2A7/122 are easier to play than Abrams for the average player, but Abrams does have higher ceiling yea.
where is it.
heres a better list
1: leopard 2a7HU/STRV122B+
2: m1a2 sep v1 (v2 is to heavy with the armour kit and to ugly without)
3: merkava mk4m
4: challenger 2 Black Night
5: Leclerc Azur/SXXI
Tbh I don’t know. Beyond the top 5 aside from some Russian style shtboxes most tanks are rather interchangeable
if i was being bias i would put the black night at first but i was reasonable and yes i would take a leclerc over a 2a5 and 2a6 simply because it looks cooler and has better team mates