That said a good M1A1 player vs a good BMPT player in the same match → you clearly can see the gap.
i dont know what are you trying to say without details, the result varies because we dont have an instantaneous outcome, i cant see whatever you are seeing in your head that’s gonna happen, there is no substract in what you said, you need to explain im not a genie
Not solely my opinion though as thousands of matches indicate the same thing.
Calling me rusmain is funny as well, happens a lot when people lack proper arguments.
Nah, even before the BR change I’ve said premium BMPT could be 11.7 and TT one at 12.0, but I do indeed oppose ridiculous changes based on a whim.
Your experience is just that, an anecdote.
Same as mine though, which is why I look at something that isn’t limited on thoughts and feelings of a single person.
Nah, just exposing the community and their trait of ignoring stupid stuff when it isn’t part of a particular nation.
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With the ammount of bugs it has now I couldnt think of any scenario that I cant kill it unless the player is just straight up brain death.
Well that’s the point other nations don’t have a lineup which means that the BMPT plays other BRs than its own. And according to the numbers it has to be BRs higher than its own. So it’s fair to assume that the bmpts winrate is good despite playing against higher ranked vehicles not because it claps lower BRs mainly.
Seeing how premium BMPT had 1.27 K/D in March at 11.3, I highly doubt it deserves to be bumped up by more than a full BR, unless of course you want to do this to every vehicle with similar performance.
Watch out guys, 7.3 weaponry is going through.
What is a lie, that Fuji at 11.7 can face 12.7s ?
I’m not the one that needs to post “proof” to stop it from going to 12.7.
You and others alike have that burden though.
Vehicle with 1.27 K/D at 11.3 is a 12.7 material for what reasons ?
Yeah, personal experience beats thousands of games recorded over the months ?
Smart cookie, aren’t you ?
2A42 is not a 7.3 BR weapon. It first appears on the BMP-2 at 8.7 BR. 7.3 BR has the 2A72 30mm gun on the BTR-80.
2A72 =! 2A42
2A72 is a slower firing weapon that should also have inferior dispersion.
1.27 K/D is the only concrete number you’ve posted, and you’re doing a lot of work with it. K/D alone doesn’t tell you much it doesn’t account for spawn cost, game mode, map control, or how the vehicle is actually played. A support vehicle that keeps its distance will always have a moderate K/D even while dominating, and let me remind you the bmpt 72 as a premium will be spawned by people with no skills, wich its very common and even those people can struggle with such a vehicle
“7.3 weaponry” — the 2A42 fires APDS with enough penetration to go through the sides of MBTs and frontally through virtually any IFV it faces at 11.7. Calling that 7.3 weaponry because the cannon its seen since the bmp2 its just rebuttal, you are acting like if autocannons havent been since vehicles from lower br’s to even higher br’s, its still a capable autocannon, and you still want to diminish what it can do
You also said “I’m not the one who needs to post proof” in the same post where you cited a stat without a source. Where’s that 1.27 K/D from? Thunderskill? What sample size? What timeframe? "Thousands of games"from what players is your claim, back it up, because i can just search it and bring out different stats to what you claim.
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You’re using that data again…lol
Like you really see no different between drunk drivers and sober ones … tell me which of these two type of driver you want for a ride?
Wait, I thought BMPTs being at 11.3 made playing 10.3 and 10.7 impossible due to constant spam ?
Both things can be true? We’re talking about almost 3 million games between them lol
Support vehicle that can allegedly just hold W and delete everything it faces as it doesn’t take damage ?
Nothing indicates premium vehicles perform worse than their TT counterparts.
It’s still a mid tier APDS round.
It’s from March.
I thought it’s obvious I’m talking about the latest published stats, but apparently you never know.
Works for all vehicles…
Are we in the BMPT thread?
You just said “nothing indicates premium vehicles perform worse than their TT counterparts” — the stats I posted show exactly that. BMPT at 1.91 K/D vs BMPT-72 at 1.49 K/D, same BR. That’s a 28% performance gap between the tech tree and premium version, which is precisely the premium player effect in action. The data you asked for disproves your own point.
“Mid tier APDS round” penetration values don’t care what tier you call the round. It goes through what it goes through at 11.7, and that’s what matters for BR placement.
“It’s from March, obviously” you cited a single month of a premium vehicle’s K/D without sample size context and called it proof. The full stats I posted cover millions of games across the vehicle’s entire lifespan and still show the BMPT-72 performing above average despite the premium playerbase drag. That’s a much stronger dataset than one month.
At this point you’ve had the stats, the capability breakdown, and the context. The argument’s been made. Anyone reading this thread can draw their own conclusions.
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Thousands (more like millions) of matches indicate above average performance compared to some of the best 11.7s and therefore proving both BMPTs can go up more, there, it’s settled, feel free to cry now. If a vehicle can have hundreds of thousands of games, and outperform the best MBTs of its BR with less games, then yeah, it’s overperforming, case closed.
Nah, even before the BR change I’ve said premium BMPT could be 11.7 and TT one at 12.0, but I do indeed oppose ridiculous changes based on a whim.
TT one is clear 12.7 material outright, vastly superior survivability to the premium one.
Nah, just exposing the community and their trait of ignoring stupid stuff when it isn’t part of a particular nation.
And it’s still called deflecting… you’re full of it tbh
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Premium BMPT is an objective downgrade to TT one so comparing TT and premium playerbase on that example is pretty moot. Try looking up stats for March (or other months) on other pretty popular premiums like HC, KVT or PzBtl 123 and then compare them to their copies found in TTs.
Your 28% difference is suddenly gone, wonder why.
Yes, only if you’re being ignorant.
Yeah ?
Why would I cite data from December or something when it’s May now and March data was available weeks ago.
I hope you realize those stats contain games from way back when BMPTs were at <11.0, so using that to claim they’re still too strong for 11.3 or 11.7 and should go to 12.7 makes no sense.
Also, premium playerbase drag doesn’t exist.
Those BMPT stats were recorded at 11.3 though.
I was hoping that’s simple enough to understand.
That difference in survivability is definitely worth a BR step.
And the community is still filled with two-faced members that get on their malding sprees fueled by ignorance and IRL biases.
Not true, monthly will show you stats for the months.
The full stats I posted cover millions of games across the vehicle’s entire lifespan
Please read before replying.