Im just gonna link these ones since you didnt bother to answer properly.
Is the BMPT model accurate?
On Rosoboronexport it shows what looks like a BMPT chassis (note the grenade launchers and 5 crew) with a BMPT-72 turret.
I don’t think you know what the word “bias” means mate.
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Realized wrong forum thank you 💀
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Wait you dont remember?
“Thats US propaganda and russian cannons are INSANELY ACCURATE, the M3A3 bradley is so BAd in ReAl LifE”
^ USSR cope
the reality is the BMP cannons have always been artificially buffed and the nato cannons have always had the accuracy being worse than their counter parts in game.
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Alright, time for more sharing.
“But, but… it’s just one match! Applying study and knowledge to a match where you exploit BMPT weaknesses you’ve told us about isn’t valid!”
This post also isn’t saying anything about BR preference. I still think BMPT, Chally 2, etc can and should move to 12.0, or 1.3 difference between them and Leopard 2A4/10.7 M1 Abrams.
The only shot I failed on was shot 2, where I had a skill issue in aiming too high thus missing the ammo. All other shots hit ammunition. Using L26… a DM33 equivalent round.
Map was Abandoned Factory, which is a bad map for BMPTs to play on due to lack of open environments to utilize their missiles.
So yeah, I still think Leopard 2A4 and Abrams should be separated from BMPT, Chally 2, T-80U, and a number of other rather powerful 11.7s.
Current model in the game is ‘‘accurate’’ in the sense that it has indeed existed but it’s the old configuration from 2002. All active duty BMPT ( especially those taking part in the SVO ) have been updated to the standard you show in your post . So in that sense although current game version has existed , it’s not representative of the current BMPT population .
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Tysm!
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I heavily disagree.
The Leo 2’s are fine. They are the best 10.7 MBT’s that NATO has arguably and at 10.3, they will fight MBT-70’s and such. That’s not really fair at all.
I hope to see if the BMPT gets to a balance of 1 K.D at the nerf BR 11.7 or if 10.7 gets fed upwards because it needs to feed that broken tank with Russians flocking in large herds using it. Long story short, I will be playing BMPT at 11.7 max in my small part to boost its statistics and see how many downtiers I get and maybe get on a winstreak of 10 games in a row again like I did with it at BR FKING 12.7. Overall, this tank they keep trying to keep alive for the sake of the time they put in and trash lineup Russia has needs to stop. This isn’t going to be one of those forums where things die off anytime soon then gets closed. This vehicle is as broken or full of BS as various other vehicles that couldn’t be balanced or kept in similar situations like the SAV 20, Panther II & Tiger II 10.5 cm KwK hell even the MAUS or E-100, turn this into a vehicle seen maybe every 2-3 years NO, how about NEVER?
Complete rework (Premium only purchase every 2-3 years AND remove tech tree version) or BR 12.7 this thing needs to fking die off already
Matr what? No the leopard 2s are arguably the strongest 10.7s.
As well as that the bmpts are going to shift up helping mitigate the issue for 10.7
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I think the leopards suffer the same issue that a lot of western tanks suffer - they all have virtually no hull armour, and even when they’re hull down they’ll struggle against the lolpen ammunition of certain tanks (I’ve had a hull down T-72 go through the challenger 1s turret cheeks at 1Km, while I couldn’t make a dent against his turret at that range)
The big issues is map design, if you’re fighting street to street, a T-series tank won’t really have to ‘aim’, just fire centre mass and it’s probably a disable or kill (my Indian T-90 is my hold W and have a laugh tank)
To get back on topic - It’s partly what makes the BMPT so toxic, it has incredible armour for its BR, all while being able to blind/disable you (without really having to aim, just shoot in the general direction) - in the CQB maps we have it’s pretty miserable to face
I’m not gonna pretend I’m some massively experienced ground forces player, I’m a jet player/wallet warrior with 1 million back ups to use on my prem and Sqn vehicles - but the 10 game losing streaks don’t lie, and the snowball effect is the same in Air RB as it is in ground forces
You’re not wrong, this images sums it up
It’s indefensible and needs fixing. The bloody things shouldn’t be able to delete your barrel at 2km, it’s ridiculous.
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That will be because the era modelling is totally broken. They didn’t even attempt to model it correctly and it just defies physics at the moment.
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First idea is great, if you want to solve nothing.
Second idea is too much as well, considering BMPTs are performing worse than some other busted vehicles like T58 or Turm III. So, if you put them at 12.7, you’d need to put T58 at 9.7 / 10.0 and Turm III at 9.3 / 9.7.
Premium BMPT should be fine at 11.7 and TT one could go to 12.0 though.
Just here to say **** the BMPT
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Like that is going to solve it … surely it should be 12.3
no other t90m hull has a 5 man crew :(
Hello, hope everyone is doing good.
We all know where this is going. I can only play this game 2 days a week or every 6 days. I am trying to enjoy it. But with the BMPTs this is getting so unfair. About 4 MBTs from my team get taken out by a single BMPT tank regardless of which type it is. Once those 4 get taken out, the spawn is camped for good and we lose.
The tank is so protected from almost all types of damage. You got the gunner? Well, it will keep firing. You got the upper ammo? Doesn’t matter, it will survive. You got the internal ammo? will still survive. You shoot from the sides? Maybe from behind? It will survive.
The past few games there was more than a single one with a BMPT, up to 3 or even 4. You somehow kill one of them and feel relief? Surprise he has back up.
Most of the time CAS already ruins your advance on the ground. But dear lord if they have BMPTs and CAS at the same time. It is just total slaughter for your team.
I am not a super player. I am just a normal guy. Can get angry when I die or see something stupid. But this just is an issue for everyone not just me. This tank has no place at the current BR. The only time I could confidentially kill any BMPT was during a night game where I had my Jaguar. Due to thermals, and the amazing gun depression I managed to kill one after landing about 3 missiles before the 4th finally finished it off. The guy couldn’t see me that’s the only reason why I survived.
The first time I started playing WT was back in 2018. I played it for like the duration of 2018 then my GPU died and had to abandon the game for years. During 2018 the game was so amazing and balanced. CAS was not that big of an issue. No such broken tanks. Nowadays, it is just a circus, and normal tanks are the clowns.
I hate two things with passion in this game. CAS and any aspect of P2W kinda ground/air/navy. Let’s hope they get this fixed. Mainly the BMPTs. I have sadly been actively anticipating other Tank games because of how painful war thunder has become.
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Hello, hope everyone is doing good.
We all know where this is going. I can only play this game 2 days a week or every 6 days. I am trying to enjoy it. But with the BMPTs this is getting so unfair. About 4 MBTs from my team get taken out by a single BMPT tank regardless of which type it is. Once those 4 get taken out, the spawn is camped for good and we lose.
The tank is so protected from almost all types of damage. You got the gunner? Well, it will keep firing. You got the upper ammo? Doesn’t matter, it will survive. You got the internal ammo? will still survive. You shoot from the sides? Maybe from behind? It will survive.
The past few games there was more than a single one with a BMPT, up to 3 or even 4. You somehow kill one of them and feel relief? Surprise he has back up.
Most of the time CAS already ruins your advance on the ground. But dear lord if they have BMPTs and CAS at the same time. It is just total slaughter for your team.
I am not a super player. I am just a normal guy. Can get angry when I die or see something stupid. But this just is an issue for everyone not just me. This tank has no place at the current BR. The only time I could confidentially kill any BMPT was during a night game where I had my Jaguar. Due to thermals, and the amazing gun depression I managed to kill one after landing about 3 missiles before the 4th finally finished it off. The guy couldn’t see me that’s the only reason why I survived.
The first time I started playing WT was back in 2018. I played it for like the duration of 2018 then my GPU died and had to abandon the game for years. During 2018 the game was so amazing and balanced. CAS was not that big of an issue. No such broken tanks. Nowadays, it is just a circus, and normal tanks are the clowns.
I hate two things with passion in this game. CAS and any aspect of P2W kinda ground/air/navy. Let’s hope they get this fixed. Mainly the BMPTs. I have sadly been actively anticipating other Tank games because of how painful war thunder has become.
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