Okay so its literally 1 pixel between the UFP and the beak. And by 1 pixel, I mean it.
Driver port didn’t work.
v1per is a furry squadron
what are you arguing about this time
2A7’s armor.
ah. this again
the whole nato tank armour vs russian armour thing is really basic
the t80bvm has better armour than every nato tank except the 2a7s and 122s
the t90m has the best armour for top tier but bad mobility and reload speed
basically the 2a7 and 122 are the only nato tanks that have comparable armour to top tier russian tanks and gaijin should buff the armour of other nato tanks to balance it out. the challenger merkava ariete and leclerc for an example are all missing a lot of armour the challenger mostly its armour is a complete mess
No. Its literally JUST about the 2A7.
I would get castrated by half the forum if I started talking about BVM armor not being as good as people make it to be so I won’t go there.
oh well the 2a7 has good armour. still a way overated tank imo
Very good tank besides the ammo count. Its why I prefer Abrams.
its not as great as people make it out to be.
if you dont want to become a nuclear bomb getting hit in the lfp you can only take 16 rounds
its reload isnt that great
its got the worse nato hump at top tier
its mobility isnt that amazing (its not much faster than a challenger 3)
it gets a turret basket (a nerf in every way)
the 2a7 is HARD carried by l/55 dm53 and good hull armour on the ufp the breech isnt incredibly strong and a bigger weakspot than it looks and the ufp shot trap type of thing is quite inconsistent as ive penned 2a7s there quite often with even l27a1
I mean. Its significantly faster in acceleration.
Hard carried by everything except mobility/reload. Its just good in every way except those categories.
i think it like 1 second faster to its top speed compared to a challenger 3 compared to its predecessor (the 2a6) its not amazing
the mobility and reload are quite big things along with the turret basket and the fact you can barely even shoot over your side like wtf is up with that. and the armour isnt as good as people make it seem a single lower front plate shot and if there not carrying more than 16 rounds its still a driver basket instantly disabled and the turret face is quite easily pennable and it will take out the breech 99% of the time obviously thats the same with a lot of other tanks but still
Glorious DM63 (and maybe a reload buff at some point…) will save the Leopard ammo count!
Gaijin could also just let us assign where shells get placed in ammo racks, but oh well.
i think the leopards should 100% get a 5s reload 6.0s on a max crew which not everyone has and 6.3 on an expert which also not everyone has its still only .3s faster than a chinese tank and .1s faster than a bvm especially when theres tanks in the game with similar firepower and an up to 3.5 second faster reload (type 10 and tkx) the leopards kind of need it
Driver port doesnt really work, not head on. It has to be a bit unangled.
It does, but you can’t shoot at the optic itself, you shoot under it, and the flat plate will catch it - as Gaijin still has not made the hatch volumetric.
The optic is a black hole that disrupts the flight path, otherwise:
This is just the few I managed to screenshot in time.
Best part is how that M829A2 went thru an equivalent of over 800mm of RHA in length and it didn’t care cus Gaijin is bad at modelling.
No.
Not all that needed, having the armor (on 2A7/122’s) advantage over other lighter MBT’s (largely on the hull) at the cost of reload keeps the Abrams’ and others competitive by trading aforementioned protection for reload speed
At absolute WORST they could go down to like 5.5 ace, but even that’s not necessary
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Like this?
Anyway, in my testing the driver port and area between beak and ufp were extremely inconsistent and tbh, I cannot recall a single time I died to the latter. Not to say it cannot happen, its just not a viable weakspot to go for.
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why? because you think its the best tank in the game. the abrams has a better reload with a bigger ammo count and ready rack with a round thats equivalent to l/44 dm53 the type 10 and tkx have a 4 second autoloader with 613mm of pen the leopard without a max crew has a worse reload compared to EVERY OTHER NATO TANK you just said you prefer the abrams because its got better mobility a less annoying nato hump and a 5 second reload with a big ready rack and amazing ammo storage. giving the leopards a 5 second reload is a completely logical thing. what about the strvs with a round similar to that of the leclerc except the leclerc has a 5 second autoloader the leopard has a 7.5-6.0s manual loader it wouldnt be overpowered at all
The ONLY thing holding Leos back is the rather mediocre reload. They trade very little besides that to have some of the best armor in the game while not lagging behind in a meaningful way compared to other tanks. 5s Leo would spell fcking disaster.
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5s Leopard and next thing you know Abrams’ people will want 4s.
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