yeah… gotta love how for 3.5 years NATO CAS got F&F weapons 6 months to a year before the Russian equivalent (and at much lower BRs and KAB-500 didn’t even have track lock at a full BR higher than walleyes) and it was “skill issue bro”, Germany had PARS 4 years before any other F&F heli ATGM and 6 years before Russia… but as soon as the boot is on the other foot is all “RUZZIAN BIAS REEEEEEEEE!!!” and all the “LMUR OP JAGM takes twice ands many hits to kill!!! RUZZIAN BIAS!!!” just ignore how you get twice as many JAGMs so firing 2 per target gives the same kill potential.
Now that said I don’t think Russian CAS is fair or balanced currently, but I’m going to enjoy the salt from all the “git good bro” CAS apologists that mocked my poor little Type 93 getting orbital struck by Mavs, Paveways, Walleys and PARS for YEARS.
Y’all need a
for this Karmic burn
i too dont belive such, as much as i didnt belvie back then the AGMs were balanced. to hell them Walleyes on A-4E… But that being the problem only when USSR got it is just hilarous hypocrisy.
them FNF ammunition shouldnt be added in the first place, that just makes everything purely unbalanced
FnF certainly hasn’t made the game better in either air or ground.
Tiger UHT was never ‘immortal’ like these helis with LDIRCM. It has no cannons and mediocre air-to-air missiles. As for the PARS 3, any player with two brain cells knows it’s complete trash. Are you seriously crying about that? It’s a massive skill issue. No wonder Gaijin keeps giving you Russians broken vehicles—you don’t even know how to stay off the radar, so you rely on a magic force field to hover at 10km altitude.
Even Mavericks—which are aircraft-grade weapons—can’t compare to the LMUR. The day every Maverick is a guaranteed kill, when a CAS plane can carry 8 of them, stay immune to SPAA with an invisible force field, and have top-attack missiles that ignore launch angles and are fast enough to be uninterceptable… then you can come back here and I might support your opinion. But for now, you’re just crying, and keep in mind, I don’t even play the US.
was about a year and a half ago, and NATO said “beh bettah positioning, mavericks cant even be shot from 13km away” xD
whilist carrying 6 of em, you completely missed the point
When did Russia get the type 93?
for practical purposes , yeah it was, short of pulling a plane, even a tanks APFSDS didn’t have time to hit it before it was back in hiding.
never said they did. I only claimed that it’s funny that people claimed un-countable CAS was fair and balanced when it was their CAS.
It doesn’t matter; I intercepted Mavericks even with the Osa-AKM at 10.3, or with FlaRakPz 1 garbage.
Yeah pars were cancerous.
But least those had 7km range.
Now, people can just stick on furthest heli base and spam from there
Yep, it was a bad idea made far worse, but I sooth it with the tears of those that defended the bad idea to begin with suffering with its inevitable conclusion.
Yeah.
But to be honest, it is hilarious that f&f helo cost less compared to jets with f&f munition.
And also free pantsir should be removed, and replaced with thor.
Would make 11,7+ games a lot more playable
Which was added likely 3 years after Maverick Spam became a basic NATO strategy xD
And I never said that. But it’s complete hypocrisy to deny that the PARS 3, which was released ages ago, remains trash to this day without its real-world functions, while the LMUR arrives fully modeled at launch. Months later, there’s still no word on other missiles getting their actual capabilities—denying that this is partiality is just pure hypocrisy.
And if we’re talking about FnF weapons, why not mention the Kh-38MT, which doesn’t even exist? Meanwhile, Germany had no decent CAS after 7.7 for a very long time, while you guys always had everything and are still here trying to argue about the Tiger UHT. Also, you trying to talk about who has had the advantage longer is ridiculous, especially since the Pantsir has dominated as the undisputed best SPAA for years now. It’s just pathetic.
I love how the BMPT is at 11.3 and the Challenger 2 OES is at 11.7, BMPT is as good as the Abrams at 12.0 is if not better,
Their arguments are honestly hilarious lol. Even if you kill a BMPT, it can still insta-kill you with an ATGM. It happened to me in my Leopard 2 PL: I killed the bastard, but he managed to fire the missile right before dying. The detail? All my crew members were still alive, his tank was facing me with no favorable angles, the ATGM hit my turret—and boom, instakill. Nice gameplay.
Besides being a nightmare to kill from the front, that piece of trash shreds your cannon in less than a second and kills you with ATGMs even at a 1.0 higher tier lol. I’ve even played at 12.7 and saw a BMPT on my team absolutely demolishing the enemies, pushing them all the way back to their spawn. But sure, the ‘balance’ is totally fine according to our Russian comrades. Just trust them.
The biggest thing that irks me is that there’s really nothing I can do to them unless I get a shot on their lower front plate, yet they’re always hull down.
It really wasn’t trash when it was released. and I have actually supported PARS getting it’s proper top attack mode, it was a necessary nerf when it was introduced that has been power crept past it’s relevance.
Funny how losing a war affects your military isn’t it? Also Japan main here…
Again… Japan main here
I am also long on record advocating for better SPAAs for other nations…
Just my opinion
Anyway, Germany finally has some CAS with the new Eurofighter AESA. Even though it’s total bullshit having to grind the exact same vehicle all over again just to get FnF bombs and a better radar, it is what it is…
Remember unlike KH38’s those bombs have Mach 1 release speed which hinders your survivability a lot.