So are you claiming the T-90M hull the BMPT uses is also broken with your mention of the fuel tanks. it’s using the same exact hull as the T-90M with the inclusion of modules. I have found nothing to be different about them and both should be brought into question as this was never a discussion before
I’d say it’s just the BMPT the damage model. Here’s a video of post pen damage with the T-90M, T-80BVM and BMPT with M829A2 at 500 meters at 50*.
Reason I include all 3 is because the T80BVM hull is thicker with no spall liner and the T90M is thicker AND with a spall liner. Thing is, the BMPT has FAR less fragmentation and is in a tighter cone in comparison, which makes little sense as it’s only 10mm difference. Now do this in the fuel tank on the BMPT v the T90M and the only fuel tank eating the shot is the BMPT (which also gets a fuel tank on both sides)
As for the 30mm GL, that’s because the explosive penetration is only 3.3mm whereas the top of the BMP2M turret is 6mm. From the game’s penetration calculation, it can’t (even though a whole chain of 30mm GL is going to severely damage the tank IRL). However, notice how when you detonate it, the entire chain goes up, as with any other autocannon? So why is that not the case with the very continuous ammo chain of 30mm on the Terminator, outside that because it would knock out the tank? There’s no break in the ammo chain and is the only way to knock it out if hull down (I mean hell, they nerfed the TOW-2B to dust because of the hull down attack. Why should Russia be the only one to profit from it).
The game is going to advance over time with more vehicles added, this is only a select case of “Pantsir syndrome” where players advocate Russia shouldn’t of got it in the first place because no other nation has an equivalent or anything equal to it’s capability (IRL)
It’s almost like it’s a literal brand-new vehicle IRL. It makes no sense to add that as why don’t we have modern NATO equipment like JAGMs or M2A4E1 then? I mean hell, we’re missing quite a few Bradley variants as well as NATO vehicles missing laser track and lead ballistic computers. What’s the justification of adding a combat support vehicle to Russia from 2016/later when there are DOZENS of other vehicles that could be added?
As I said before, I don’t disagree with adding Anti-ERA rounds, but their inclusion would have to be careful. It’s not like Russia and correspeonding nations have a wide variety of tanks, most of them use the similar hull with the same Relikt setup.
So how is it fair to have brand new, real world, Russian vehicles designed to counter everything that’s in game? Hell, it’s like how the T90A from 2005 uses a 2016 round fights the IMP1, which was retired in 1996. Why isn’t it on par with the M1A2 SEP from the same time period (which is STILL limited to a 1992 round)? Or why does the T90A fight the Challanger Mk 3 from 1990 and retired in 2001, which is limited to an early 90s round and their top tier round is the L27A1 from 1999? Noticing a trend yet? Japan has the JM33 and Type 10 for top tier, which is a licensed DM33 and a specialized 120mm round from 2010 (on par to the M829A2), Italy gets the DM53, France gets the OFL 120 F1 from '92, Sweden gets the slpprj m/95 (a version of the M322) and Israel get the M338. They’re ALL Generation III APFSDS, whereas Russia gets almost brand-new ammunition. With this logic in ammunition, why doesn’t Russia get 3BM46 as their top tier ammunition seeing how 3BM60 was designed to counter NERA? Which I REALLY hope Gaijin doesn’t add the T-14 Armata, especially seeing how it gets 3BM69/3BM70 IRL.
Seeing how I’ve point blanked them from the side and watched the round get eaten by thin air, there’s clearly an issue with the damage model and, to be quite frank, is busted in the current state of the game. It shouldn’t have been added and should be removed from the game until that time comes. The ONLY reason it is is because Gaijin can’t stand the thought of the Russian TT not having an easy grind (and yes, it’s far easier playing Russia than any other TT) and it’s going to wreck top tier until Gaijin does something. Moving it up is only going to stop players from playing 11.7-12.7.
Gaijin Entertainment - Single Sign On Also, you say as your team got spawn trapped and decimated by two BMPTs.
