I’m still surprised this thread still exists. From a BMPT perspective, it’s hard to find a player who has trouble destroying BMPT.
It’s more likely that the entire Soviet tree in the 10.3 - 11.3/11.7 range is practically the best machines on their RB.
Matches where he throws the entire BMPT team are usually lost :D
Or its just a bias, those games stick out more than others so you only remember those instead of standard games.
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I can count with less than 10 matches in the past month that haven’t been dominated by BMPTs between 10.7 to 12.7 when brought out.
Either I’m the most absolute dogwater player at toptier or you must literally sit in spawn sniping or sit in a light vehicle to rush SU30MKM if the BMPT is “Not an issue” for 12.0-13.0 JP, literally the most pre-melted butter tanks at top tier that a single burst from APDS can kill…
You’re free to add me on Discord (zulizia.) to watch some clips of me running circles around Russian teams, I never sit back w/ the TKX/Type 10, I’m always up front.
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When did you last play JP, going through the replays your first page so far is all RU 2S38 spawns off rip.
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1-2~ days ago, again feel free to add me on Discord if you don’t believe me.
What can I say, I love funny APHE Autocannon w/ HE-VT
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I prefer to see actual gameplay, I could present cherry picked clips where I instagib BMPTs, doesn’t mean they’re not an issue.
Even more so when the first JP gameplay replay I found was 2 light vehicles and 2 SPAA as your spawn, making it clear your aim is to get into the Su30 as fast as possible to fling KH lol…
Then go ahead and pull up my replays, I can tell you not all of them are amazing but from my experience I don’t really have an issue with the BMPT at (mainly) 13.0 Japan. When I was dying, it was mostly just due to my bad positioning, overcommits or running out of darts in my ready rack.
If its the Breslau game, yeah I wanted to try out slinging Kh-38ML from the airfield. If you look at my stats in the last week, I’ve barely touched light vehicles in Japan. 22 Games w/ TKX.
Not to mention my KD w/ the TKX is 54/22 *within the last week. You don’t get 22 deaths in 22 games sitting in spawn and spamming Su-30MKM (which is only in 11 matches, so clearly not my main goal.)
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I don’t have any of the jp mbts but based on my experience fighting them, the type 10 actually has a tiny bit more armor than the rest of them, it is not as easy as killing the Fuji or tkx, the protection feels like it’s leclerc and their strong lfp is almost identical
Type 10/TKX are hands down the most lightly armored modeled MBT at top tier, any and every sort of dart can straight up pen your face and cheeks, the only saving grace is the 4 sec rof and hydropneumatic suspension that lets you be cheeky, but other tanks have 5 sec rof with far superior surviability, Abrams and Leclercs, the leclercs of which many say is the better Type 10 because it offers way more survivability and has superior mobility.
Better yet, I challenge you to take the Type 89 (which uses 127mm APDS) and try to pen any other top tier MBT in the face that isn’t the breach, meanwhile BMPT APDS (82mm btw) can go through almost the entire front of the Type 10/TKX face or super exposed driver port, not to mention effortlessly through the lower glacis where it would struggle for any other MBT with the exclusion of the Leclerc.
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Man id love to play 10.3 - shame gaijin have lost their minds
First and foremost I’d like to know what server you play on because those were the most barren of BMPT battles I’ve ever seen since this update, only 3 of those battles had 2 BMPTs alive at any given moment and a lot of them you never had the chance to engage them because you were killed by other stuff first (meanwhile I can hear 4 firing like goobers as soon as my match starts, or maybe 3 and a normal BMP)… Second I imagine you’ve had very little interaction with them because after your MBT death you go on the AA offensive with the Type 03, Type 87, and the squadron RCV (since the TT version can’t lock aircraft) which yeah, would greatly limit your presence in the midfield where the BMPTs are until they push your spawn, which you’re typically already out of the match by then.
Your deaths to the BMPTs you did manage to interact with weren’t bad positioning, one was basically outside your spawn and hit you with an ATGM for the instagib, the other you were trying to get a shot off on him from behind cover but because the Type 10/TKX armour is basically curtains he just straight up melted you through the face.
I wasn’t even aware of the literal ML slinging from the airfield, only further makes me dislike the RU handholding to be able to fling these without line of sight and get kills 6 seconds from leaving the airfield and then just returning.
I wager this wasn’t from lack of trying but more you being farmed out of spawn, like the rest of us, by the 2 LMUR slingers and the Su30s.
I’m not attempting to shame anyone, but I wish people would present more realistic interactions.
Ah yes the double spall liner and the magic APFSDS that doesn’t do any damage to crew or ammo, so glad this game is one sided to one nation -=-
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EU/NA. In the last week or so I’ve not seen nearly as much BMPTs at top tier because they simply aren’t that oppressive in my games. The Kh-38 and LMURs are the obvious oppressors to me, not the BMPT at top tier.
It is certainly stupid, but ML slinging is only really useful against AA and Helipad so I don’t feel nearly as bad just destroying the entire map with Kh-38MT.
As far as I recall, my best games I was far from my spawn and deep in the battlefield. Those matches where I was accumulating almost 10 kills with one (or no) deaths.
Not specifically deaths to the BMPTs, just in general.
Except all of these interactions happened in real games, with real players, with me playing a real vehicle against mainly USSR. Are you implying my interactions are not realistic because they don’t line up with yours? Not to mention you implying earlier that my whole playstyle revolves around getting Kh-38s as soon as I can- which simply isn’t true. Or that I simply “sit in spawn sniping”. You say you aren’t trying to shame me but you’re making assumptions about me that simply aren’t true, then saying my interactions aren’t realistic? How much more realistic can they get?
Of the videos I did view ( which was almost 2 and a half pages worth) your interaction with BMPTs is extremely limited, that’s the unrealistic aspect of “These vehicles aren’t an issue for me” the claim is shaped by you have almost non-existent interactions with the specific vehicle, you’re mostly being killed by T80s/T72s/LMUR so of course if you aren’t sat face to face with the vehicle in question 80% of your gameplay it won’t be a problem for you. On NA there are times where 60% of the enemy team is BMPTs which no one is reliably managing such a mass even with 4 sec reload because JP armour can’t even defend itself from 82mm APDS reliably (or generally at all).
Also the fact that the few BMPTs that were in your match were many of the LMUR slingers after their first death, not necessarily a fault of the BMPT because heli is already mad cheap as it is, but BMPT armour model unreliability just lets it rake in SP better than any other vehicle, even putting their ability to straight up sent APFSDS to the void, the fuel tanks eat up darts just as bad, it’s a compounding issue.
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So, they aren’t an issue for me? Thats literally what I’m talking about.
I killed more BMPTs than BMPTs killed me, so they aren’t an issue to me. I have fond memories in my other games (prior to this week) of just LFP one shotting. I know that other people struggle with them, I haven’t denied that once. I’m not saying that they are perfect or balanced, hell I even say “just move them up” because I can recognise they’re unbalanced. But I’m saying me personally, I don’t have an issue with them at 12.0-13.0. If you want to dive through last weeks replays again, go ahead, but I was almost never being killed by BMPTs. So, they aren’t an issue for me. I even said within the last week that I haven’t seen nearly as many, and that was true was it not? I was interacting with barely any in the games you saw. I don’t get this back and forth of you trying to prove to me that I have an issue with BMPTs or that my claim that I don’t have an issue with them in my games is somehow untrue, when you yourself are proving to me that I don’t have an issue with them?
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They aren’t an issue for me is a generalized statement, the first thought anyone is going to have is they aren’t an issue for you because you deal with them perfectly in whatever situation, not that you aren’t coming across as many as the reason. The specifics matter greatly. Also your specific reply was they aren’t an issue, not they aren’t an issue for me…
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This was my reply before that, where I state they aren’t an issue for me. So you jumped into a conversation I was having w/ someone else- which is fine, its a forum afterall- but then you misunderstood the context and my entire point- which isn’t fine and is stupid. If anyone read that first comment, they’d assume I was talking about my personal experience. Could I have been more specific? Sure. Did I need to be more specific for that conversation? No.
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Once again, majorily to you not having many BMPTs in your game or having very few interactions with them, give me some specific replays to watch and I’ll gladly see how they’re not an issue for you, I can do the same in return where they come blitzing around the corner and instagib me or snipe me from 600m in a BM Oplot.