The armour and the internal setup factor imo. My shots don’t reliably pen BMPT like they do T90/T72, then all the additional internals are more RNG walls you have to get through to hope you strike something of import, and then tack on the fact FCS isn’t a universal standard across vehicles as some need it to fire their main armament, whereas others just lose accuracy/stabilizer lol, not the fault of the vehicle, just an additional annoyance.
The same people who say BMPT would struggle at top tier are also the same people who sit firing at the front of an STRV122 that’s been disabled vs going to the sides where you just aim under the skirt and it’s donezo, many games over the morning where BMPT players just keep firing for what felt like a minute and a half at me angled, busted, unable to retaliate, slamming ATGMS into my face instead of the LFP, waiting for the “Target destroyed”.
And these were the same annoyances perceived when the T-90M came out and when the T-80BVM came out.
I’m trying to figure out if there’s a genuine trend I should be following, or it’s the hull of the tanks people are complaining about.
I know back when the 80 was out, the main gripe was that there was no autoloader to damage and stun the reload, but when NATO vehicles loader got hit, that was enough to be a deciding factor.
If people were smart honestly, they’d shoot the same spot that the Relikt on the ufp stopped the 1st time depending on the situation, as everything at top tier goes through the ufps if Relikt isn’t there, or if you’re a 1 in a million and slip through the armor holes between them.
I’ll try my best to collect more clips of BMPT and T72/T90 side shots to find consistencies, won’t say it’ll be easy but since RU is all I ever fight even in mixed teams where they seem like 80% of the comp, I should have multiple opportunities.
Can’t say I’ve ever had this happen, only time I UFP T series is during snipes, but I just assumed given the distance the dart was able to angle down enough to outright pen it.
You often dont have that much time. You get deleted by this garbage before you reload.
Definetly do that!! I’d love to see actually, I always collect clips where I can because these nuances I believe have been shown through all the hulls.
This is a top view of both the T-72B3 and the BMPT-72 (the chassis it’s based off of) just with the layouts and they are exceedingly similar except for the turret armor layout.
Only real changer is that the BMPT-72 doesnt get bag era on the sides and the T-72B3 doesnt have Relikt on it’s ufp.
They both retain the internal fuel behind the ammo which does set of the ammo in both vehicles if they explode.
So you’re implying that because it doesn’t have a cannon to reload, and that it has an autocannon, you have less room for error.
Sort of like how the 2s38, Hstvl have that ability as people fluke shots against those vehicles all the time and get annihilated by them
(Just for comparison) or the BMP-2m since it has APFSDS mind you and better atgms, just the lack of armor across all 3
2s38 dies from a single shot. On the other hand, the garbage often needs 5+.
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That should be obvious since it’s on a tank hull with an autocannon, there’s not really much to diffrentiate.
When it’s a tank hull with a single shot cannon it’s less antagonizing yes.
My point is that all rank 7-8 tanks can be consistently one-shot with a well-placed HE shot to the roof - except for the BMPT. This effectively makes it indestructible (no exaggeration here) when it’s hull-down. Granted, some tanks require more precise aiming, but it’s still a reliable kill if you know the specific weak spots to aim for.
That said, I’m not sure if I correctly interpreted your message.
Remind me if this is the case for the Merkava 4 and Namer
I don’t have problems when facing any of them. The BMPT garbage should go.
Because those tanks have no concept of armor, which is why they aren’t played and when you do see them they aren’t a problem, or never could be.
Like I said, people want the BMPT gone but are asking for more advanced tanks, not sure what the verdict is here. BMPT is just a tank with an autocannon on top that’s really it.
Next up when a NATO tank gets added with some 140mm gun, are we gonna start the same cycle over again?
Look, this garbage is now breaking the 11.3 bracket. I don’t care what and when will be added and with which parameters. I do care about the BS that is happening right now.
if we can go that way, please remove f18 at 12.3, i cant play play anymore 11.3 with only r60m against a monster.
or better, up br of the 120s, hull down os a monster.
yeah also rdf/lt should not be at the same br as its brother hstvl, put it at 12.3
also xp50 at 5.0
i can add more. just saying that it should matter for any vehicules and not only the bmpt
You’re bringing up rare exceptions. I admit that’s partly my fault for using “all”. However, the Merkava has to fully expose its turret in order to return fire. And does anyone actually have trouble dealing with Namers? Being strong when hull-down is basically their only advantage.
Have you heard anyone seriously complaining about Spikes or the Bushmaster being overpowered? And how often do you even see Israeli vehicles compared to BMPTs?
This will be my last response on the topic. I don’t feel like spending more time arguing over pedantry.
I totally agree about the decompression in AirRB. The 120S, however, is a weak shit. Whenever I’m playing it, I’m getting destroyed. It’s slow AF, and no one seems to be having a problem penetrating it.
IDK about the drama with HSTVL/RDF. XP50 was nerfed with a low alt start, so it’s not the same menace anymore.
Bro, it’s a topic about BMPT, cmon.
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exactly, your here only for the bmpt and i am saying to you that just dont target only the bmpt.
not saying i want a buff for the bmpt.
In case I would find necessary, I will go to the respective topic for that.
