BMPT/72 BR Topic

Well that’s due to the LFP being ingrained in everyone’s hands, so when the engine started eating rounds it took everyone by surprise, but there’s also glaring inconsistencies and the protection analysis plays into that.

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Gaijin just implemted a similar feature on the Freccia OWS 30

hitting the ammo instantly blew up the vehicle, even though majority of it was external. So they modeled individual belts and now it just cooks off.

This is what I was saying that they are more than likely going to push this to other vehicles.

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Yeah, definitely not disbalanced!

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It’s almost as if it will ruin any BR it touches. Only a total overhaul of how Russian ERA and armor models work will end this thing’s dominance in the game.

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If that ever happens, that also means armor for NATO equivalent tanks will have to be worked. As ERA is a one time use, while NERA and composites offer multi-hit protective capability but will naturally degrade in performance, and that all depends on the engine limitations.

It was moved up in BR, so I’m not sure why you’re showing a screenshot with the 10.7 label on it.

If it goes to 12.0 will you be satisfied?

the 10.7 is their BR. They’re talking about how the USSR queue for the BMPT’s rank is still massively higher than any other queue, (in this screen shot almost the same as all other rank VII queues combined, 136 for RU, 144 for everyone else).

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it would still do well at 12.0.

The only difference is the opponents would have stronger rounds, so people playing the BS wonder machine would have to use… stay with me here… tactics!!! instead of just holding W and drive straight to a spawncamp.

Bro who tf is this bmpt sympathizer? Other tanks are nerfed enough as is. Just bring the bmpt to their level. Stop arguing on behalf of the skynet tractors.

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Are you serious now? Bro, it is literally in THIS BR.

Moved to 11.3 so you now always get uptier on 10.7 because 190 in que re russians at 11.3. So the BR change is useless.

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i like your name, peak

You always get uptiered to 11.3 when you try to play 10.7 because of sheer amount of RU vehicles ,mostly in BMPT, in queue.3 5 BMPTs spawn into the match and maincamp starts in 5 minutes.Match ends very quickly at 10.7

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Reworking something (heavy ERA and russian composite) that is known to be overperforming significantly also means that stuff that is known to be underperforming (NERA) also needs to be nerfed?

Not how it works, dude.

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The biggest problem with ERA is the angle at which a projectile strikes it. At a flat angle, APFSDS will not be heavily affected. Gaijin modeled ERA to perform exactly the same regardless of angle, meaning ERA severely overperforms on flat angles.

That makes more sense.

The only problem is that it would introduce a true “top-tier” premium and then the argument is going to shift too something completely different.

Are you sure that is the case? Last time I checked, protection degrades depending on the angle the incoming projectile originates from. The amount of millimeters changes with the angle with ERA.

You can see this when check the protection analysis when scanning the single gap between the Relikt sideskirts.

And if for some reason that is the case, the only time that flat shots to the side wouldn’t make a difference is if you completely missed, or the tank had a spall liner that negated the spall on the 1st shot.

Also most people are saying “Russian ERA” while ignoring that if ERA is overperforming as you said, then it is very likely all ERA that performs this way and this change would go for ALL forms of ERA in the game, not just Russia.

Which people aren’t thinking about.

The era is the problem and gaijin refuses to introduce darts that are made to defeat era such as the m829a3 round. Gaijin is just full of malicious intent. Can’t have their precious Russian tanks being destroyed.

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It could also be the fact that since all russian tanks use relikt/k5 as their first line of defense in the composition, any tank chassis using that layout would become null, assuming they don’t give every tank Anti-ERA rounds.

Now you have to ask yourself the question of, “Should Gaijin introduce stronger rounds to penetrate tanks with equivalent effeciency for Russia” against tanks such as the Strvs, Leo2a7s, etc.

It’s very easy to say what you are saying, but you are not considering what the overall gameplay shift/change would be, since all Russian tank armor composition uses ERA.

And that is very likely the reason that haven’t introduced these rounds or existing rounds with said capability or don’t have enough info to get a complete result for those rounds.

I could very easily pull up a youtube video with a simulated DM53 test verses the T-90s ufp with relikt armor, and the round was stopped, but the whole simulation was conducted based on speculation since the round itself is classified and nobody has concrete results of it’s capability.

But then everyone is going to be looking crazy because “DM53 couldn’t possibly be stopped” not realizing A, it’s a simulation and B, no concrete results of it’s preformance.