With the amount of cope posting about supposed russian bias you do on the forum, across multiple threads, it doesn’t seem like you are relaxing lol.
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Another bias that is definitively not russian, because I’m just coping
I mean the Pantsir has been able to do this for years now. It just used to be harder to do before the radar menu thing was added, so not a lot of people knew how to do it.
Now that you have pointed that out, what time window are you looking to skill issue post about top tier MBTs again? Those are always the most funny.
It’s not fair, Russia and China again have an advantage over NATO
There, I said it
Use it or lose it funds, had to clear excess budget somewhere.
Ok so any other nation having an advantage is fine but the moment Rssian or Chna have some advantage it start becoming a problem ? That sound like you problem bro.
Coming from a russian company, it’s sus, that’s all
I wouldn’t have said the same if the game was american
Yeah and I don’t remember Gaijin sending the russian to people house and force you to download and play their game. Also they certainly does not force people to buy the many ingame item that can be acquired with money.
Also “I wouldn’t say the same if the game was made by X” is such a bootlicker statement.
Lest we forget RU had the best SPAA (Pantsir) and the most absurd ground ordinance FNF KH38, heavily tipping RGB in their favour being able to yeet half a team off the board, for almost 2 years before anyone else got anything even remotely decent, Spice 250 is pretty laughable, and AGM65 is comical via comparison. KH shouldn’t have been added until others got some equivalent ordinance, not just adding it to JP 2 years later, everyone else who still has to use joke ordinance by comparison.
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Guess Hammer doesn’t exist in your version of the game.
You mean the insanely inferior slow af AASM bomb? I wager there’s some discrepancies between this bomb and a 14-15km missile that can orient itself however needed mid-flight. AGM65 was the next best thing and you had to be in like 7-8k range to get them off, far too close than the pantsir generally allots, yet KH can be flung from 13-14 out.
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You didn’t even mention it while being easily the best of the rest.
Nobody really cared because this was the least of the problems that the Pantsir caused. You could have removed this feature and the Pantsir would still be equally dominant back in the day.
Russia has had Kh38 on a worthwhile platform only for about just over a year (Su-34 was released in november 2024.
Before that they only had Kh38 on an Su-25, which was considerably worse for CAS than the alternatives. Hell the F-16C at that time was more dominant than the Su-25SM3.
And the Rafale with hammers, which was easily a better overall CAS plane, released about a month after the Su-34.
I’m not gonna be convinced that an 8km AGM (against a nation who had the be SPAA, just played poorly) is more potent than a 14km one, even more so when you consider the 76:1 ratio of RU to FR playerbase lol. Also even if the Su-25 was a brick in maneuverability, compensated by its ridiculous tankiness, all you have to do is get the KH off, easily 4-6 kills whichever it could carry, the SU30 just allows for far superior survivability, to simply do repeat runs.
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No way that the Su-25SM3 reliably gets 14km out of a Kh38 lol, the thing is a subsonic brick. It will almost always launch low and slow.
Meanwhile the F-16C can do pretty much whatever it wants, including giving it’s mav much more than 8km range.
Several videos showcase the M3 getting 15km MT kills, it being subsonic seems like it plays such little part when speaking about the 38Ts, MLs sure since they require constant hard lock. Hell, people were even using them in realistic air to get 16km kills lol. With the best SPAA to counter it being in, whaddya know, the RU tech tree. How many SPAA could reliably handle targets 14km away?
Who is “we” ?
Pantsir case is funny cause by the time of it introduction US CAS were still dominating and still it is the best SPAA simply because it is useable. Not because it is actually broken also it being one of the many reason why sheeper wake up from their slop fest and realize that CAS are broken and top tier need more SPAA.
Yeah but like , Japan kinda need it. They have zero good CAS , even the grippen didn’t help much. Also the F-2A ADTW selling so adding good jet make it sell faster.
Just wait then lol or cry about it or something. Maybe US/NATO will get their share when gaijin add another premium. For now Redfor and Japan bringing in the money. They don’t care about the balance , you think people crying about KH38 or Pantsir or other bs actually work ? Unless it impact the MM like the BMPT on release they aint doing nothing LMAO.
Yeah but with the current new SPAA in game that shit aint flying bud.
Should have mentioned Air for the full combo. SU30SM2 is pretty peak or maybe , a little too good for some people cause there are people calling Russian biased on that thing as well. Surely the Su30 premium pack doesn’t have anything to do with that. Surely
Before the multisam platforms it was getting those shots.
Nowadays however it’s entirely different story, hell I didn’t even bother to touch Su25 ever since Su34 came out.
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The “we” is universal to any and everyone regardless if anyone actually forgot, Iirc Pantsir had the best engagement range and because IR many pilots were simply unaware until it was too late, gravely crippling any other nations CAS response unless they were top gunning 20m from the ground and super skilled with bomb drops vs flying to 7k ft and flinging KH 14km away.
As a JP main, yes we did need a new CAS because what we had was objectively buns, but top tier is also now worse off because now there’s 2 nations flinging KH at any given moment, and by the gods, if RU and JP are same team it’s 80% of the time fish in a barrel because most new SPAA outside of the Nasam, have wonky radars they don’t function fantastically to the point you get better locking capabilities in normal view vs the actual radar system. (my constant Type 03 Sam Chu experience)
You’ll have to excuse me, I forget we constantly forsake balance for everyone every now and then, some more than others. And hopefully you mean the addition of a premium will introduce new NATO ordinance? Seems like a bad play to lock fresh NATO ordinance to a premium only vehicle when someone else doesn’t receive that treatment.
Not flying with the SU25 sure, but the SU30 still yeets half the team off the board before maybe getting shot down when someone revenge spawns an SPAA, if they aren’t slapped by KH from another SU30 in the process or a LMUR, because CAS is super cheap and from what I can tell RU rushes to CAS the fastest because KH is almost effortless. While everyone else would generally opt for Heli because top tier SPAA struggle to deal with their IRCCM or because they’re hovering 100m from a hilltop sideways and invisible.
We were mostly talking about back in the day, when it was just ADATS, VT-1 launchers, Pantsirs etc.
I simply don’t remember the Su-25SM3 ever being a problem in my experiences back then, but then again my memory is a bit iffy sometimes so that might also be it.