You always get uptiered to 11.3 when you try to play 10.7 because of sheer amount of RU vehicles ,mostly in BMPT, in queue.3 5 BMPTs spawn into the match and maincamp starts in 5 minutes.Match ends very quickly at 10.7
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Reworking something (heavy ERA and russian composite) that is known to be overperforming significantly also means that stuff that is known to be underperforming (NERA) also needs to be nerfed?
Not how it works, dude.
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The biggest problem with ERA is the angle at which a projectile strikes it. At a flat angle, APFSDS will not be heavily affected. Gaijin modeled ERA to perform exactly the same regardless of angle, meaning ERA severely overperforms on flat angles.
That makes more sense.
The only problem is that it would introduce a true “top-tier” premium and then the argument is going to shift too something completely different.
Are you sure that is the case? Last time I checked, protection degrades depending on the angle the incoming projectile originates from. The amount of millimeters changes with the angle with ERA.
You can see this when check the protection analysis when scanning the single gap between the Relikt sideskirts.
And if for some reason that is the case, the only time that flat shots to the side wouldn’t make a difference is if you completely missed, or the tank had a spall liner that negated the spall on the 1st shot.
Also most people are saying “Russian ERA” while ignoring that if ERA is overperforming as you said, then it is very likely all ERA that performs this way and this change would go for ALL forms of ERA in the game, not just Russia.
Which people aren’t thinking about.
The era is the problem and gaijin refuses to introduce darts that are made to defeat era such as the m829a3 round. Gaijin is just full of malicious intent. Can’t have their precious Russian tanks being destroyed.
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It could also be the fact that since all russian tanks use relikt/k5 as their first line of defense in the composition, any tank chassis using that layout would become null, assuming they don’t give every tank Anti-ERA rounds.
Now you have to ask yourself the question of, “Should Gaijin introduce stronger rounds to penetrate tanks with equivalent effeciency for Russia” against tanks such as the Strvs, Leo2a7s, etc.
It’s very easy to say what you are saying, but you are not considering what the overall gameplay shift/change would be, since all Russian tank armor composition uses ERA.
And that is very likely the reason that haven’t introduced these rounds or existing rounds with said capability or don’t have enough info to get a complete result for those rounds.
I could very easily pull up a youtube video with a simulated DM53 test verses the T-90s ufp with relikt armor, and the round was stopped, but the whole simulation was conducted based on speculation since the round itself is classified and nobody has concrete results of it’s capability.
But then everyone is going to be looking crazy because “DM53 couldn’t possibly be stopped” not realizing A, it’s a simulation and B, no concrete results of it’s preformance.
Yeah, saw the changelog after a match since I play until the dead of night sometimes, saw this change and wondered why many autocannon vehicles had to suffer with this trait but then RU gets a vehicle that would suffer greatly to it and now the solution to make that vehicle more survivable will now (what I assume gradually over time) will extend to others who maybe should’ve had it for some time lol.
It would absolutely still be fine at 12.0, the only thing it can’t front pen is Strv/Leo and T series far as I can tell and honestly just being able to disable vehicles extremely quickly and tank shots that aren’t lethal kills (anything above the neck) it farms SP better than scouting seems like, which just means RU mains who ALREADY try to rush CAS to sling KH and kill half a team in 9 seconds are just getting there that much faster and more frequently… Even if it itself became a strugglebus at the top it will still undoubtedly affect any BR in that fact alone. FNF AGMs alone being one of the worst top tier additions itself tbh.
11.3 is a void BR for everyone except Isreal who have the only “complete” 11.3 roster line up, so naturally the BMPT will see more downtiers than uptiers, then couple that with their notion of “never selling top tier vehicles” and it allots them a convenient excuse to not put it where its absurd survivability warrants it at.
The only tank that would receive the a3 round would be the sep v2. That specific variant of apfsds was made before the tank was. So it’s not realistic and the tank underperforms because of it. So the game can’t have at least 1 tank capable of slicing through era? And yes, if you do a simple search you will find that the a3 round has a much easier time going through era. It may not be able to go through the front plate of a t series in some areas, but it would significantly increase its performance to counterbalance the bias that is Russian era. This is not something that’s argued, this is a fact. If you choose not to believe it then that’s on you.
Feel like Gaijin is just wary of adding DU to the game in any major capacity, whether that be due to balancing purposes, classification, or modeling reworks who can really say besides themselves.
I didn’t say I don’t believe it, but since there’s no evidence and it’s just speculation, that also has to be a consideration. Then the other thing is what Anti-ERA rounds were designed for K5 or Relikt.
And not just the assumption, “it’s Anti-ERA so all russian ERA is null and void” beause that would be a bad one.
That generally seems to be how the game functions, getting instant kills grants less SP than if you crit them and then finish them off with additional damage.
This single random ass armor piece around the hatches completely negates most HE ammunition. Is there a lore reason why the engineers shoved this hunk of metal there?
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When I have a rough day, I like to relax saying how much I hate the BMPT here
With the amount of cope posting about supposed russian bias you do on the forum, across multiple threads, it doesn’t seem like you are relaxing lol.
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Another bias that is definitively not russian, because I’m just coping
I mean the Pantsir has been able to do this for years now. It just used to be harder to do before the radar menu thing was added, so not a lot of people knew how to do it.
Now that you have pointed that out, what time window are you looking to skill issue post about top tier MBTs again? Those are always the most funny.
It’s not fair, Russia and China again have an advantage over NATO
There, I said it
Use it or lose it funds, had to clear excess budget somewhere.