He did not say that exactly, he said something like “you’re coping, Spikes are the best, Spikes are perfectly fine, please do not buff their modeling to true and good performance ingame, otherwise Russia will suffer, and I DO NOT want that at all”.
I don’t remember exactly.
EDIT : don’t forget to say Spikes suck against russian MBTs only.
Against NATO, they’re relatively quite competitive. For “some” reason.
They didn’t need to go down mate that’s why they still perform extremely well.
Ah yes yes, it’s well known, now that their basket is modeled, they became the META. Everybody want to play NATO MBTs, hence the fact the current majority of MBTs played at top tier are NATO (plot twist : it is not the case, it is of course russian MBTs, because those are the real META and everybody know it).
Fun fact i used to I used to on the WT reddit as well as on here when I joined many years ago until I had more experience with the game.
Didn’t ask
They aren’t broken, they don’t have their correct loft angle but they certainly ain’t useless missiles which are broken by any means.
There I got the confession : “Spikes are useful”. No point reading further, as I said before.
Next post will be “BMPT is balanced, stop coping”.
but i didn’t
i didn’t call it all cope, you are just making shit up
because they got a huge buff? not saying they should have gone up, im saying that your point is dumb and makes no sense
not true, they suck the same against nato mbts
i personally only use them against helis and light vehicles since they pop them quite reliably (and you can launch them from relative safety)
whatever i don’t believe you until you directly quote him
you twist words and lie like its nothing and conveniently discard valid arguments and points made
not going to respond further unless you actually say something reasonable
you twist words and lie like its nothing and conveniently discard valid arguments and points made
The same way you quote 1/10th of my precedent post, completely ignoring the following argument in favor of NATO MBTs that shouldnt go up in BR :
as they don’t even go down in BR when their basket, nerfind them to the ground, is added ?
Also, why would they go up in BR, while BMPT is still at 11.3 destroying every top tier brackets ? And LMURs still exist the way they are, vs JAGMs ? And Spikes/MMPs still exist the way they are (completely broken) ? And TOW-2B still exist the way they are (completely broken) ? And russian ERAs/side armor in general still exist the way they are (eat DARTs, ATGMs, as well as the autoloaders themselves) ?
Start to nerf russian stuff, then you can nerf AFTERWARDS the NATO counterparts. That’s the way it should be, because again, with all the stuff I stated, it is well deserved for NATO.
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EDIT :
whatever i don’t believe you until you directly quote him
There, he just said it :
They aren’t broken
Someone actually saying Spikes aren’t broken can’t be taken seriously.
I didn’t say that at all.
I said spikes still loft just not to their correct attack angles, which is true.
As well as that they aren’t bad, just not 1 hit kills. it was on @KhorneFlakez1337 post I believe unless I’ve gotten one of the 4 posts mixed up.
you are now being completely rude for no reason at all
They literally are useful xD massive skill issue if you cannot make a fire and forget missile which requires absolutely 0 user imput to work.
he says to the man advocating for it to be removed
I use them against MBTs as well, they’ve worked on and off for both.
he literally cannot mate he’s now just going on random ass rants using what I said to disparage me.
Also fun fact less than 20 percent of my rank 7 /8 battles are with Russia, majority are with britain lol
At this point the moderators should likely step in as he’s derailing quite a few threads.
I didn’t say that at all.
I said spikes still loft just not to their correct attack angles, which is true.
And yet you still won’t admit there is a russian bias (because it basically makes all Spike NATO IFVs useless, and those are important to fight against Russia).
At this point the moderators should likely step in as he’s derailing quite a few threads.
You just want to censor and silence me because I expose the blatant bias, and it bothers you.
What russian IFV is slinging LMURs? lol you’re acting as if spikes getting the functionality wouldn’t break stuff even farther.
Also sorry what? NATO Spike carrying IFVs, like the
Not at all , you’ve not only written absolute garbage and said that I said it, but are now at the point of being rude.
Your exposure of “russian bias” is total nonsense.
You’ve literally added nothing to these conversations with others aka DEBATES as you purposfully antagonise folks, then reject anything they say.
Which BTW is what you claimed alvis does lol.
Meanwhile, I’ve sat here, if you’d read, talking with people such as @H_ngma , a person of which we usually end up at odds with balance or features of vehicles etc. and agreed with his stances on the BMPT.
Which this thread is about.
He in fact said to me, if you read above, the removal of the BMPT wouldn’t be necessary if they actually fixed it, and he is right.
does that mean he supports russian bias?
You’ve literally added nothing to these conversations with others aka DEBATES
You don’t want to debate. Anything we say proving the russian bias is true, you simply say it’s false.
Spikes are broken, TOW-2B are broken, JAGMs are broken, russian ERAs/side armors/autoloaders are broken. MI28NM cannon is too much accurate.
Those are simple facts. You say they’re false. Thus, I’m deducting you don’t want to debate, you just want to be right.
While all of that is true, this is still a BMPT thread. Youre not gonna get your point across more by going super off topic but instead youre just going to seem more and more unhinged. There is a thread for all of these things and they need to be adressed but watering down the topic of each thread is not going to achieve anything.
LMURs as I said should get the lofting mechanic they have removed , KH38MT shouldn’t be in game etiher.
BMPTs are ridiculously OP, just as mnay other IFVs added before them.
TOW2Bs worked fine last I used them , explode over the top no?
Russian ERA only relict over performs as far as I’ve seen.
Their auto loaders are broken how?
They break when shot and if ammo is hit the RNG decides if you did enough to detonate it or not.
Same as every other auto loader.
agreed.
I also since the addition of the LMURs and subsequently terminators haven’t touched russia at all.
as much as I’d like to use the T80UM2 the bollocks they’ve got going on is just silly.
The BMPTs have definitely been a kick in the face for any WT player not farming KD.
LMURS, KH38 etc I’ve stated enough I think we can safely say these need rectifying / nerfed.
Pretty sure devs put in ignore mode the russian bias main thread.
We are not being heard.
Ofc the devs ignore it. They also ignore this thread and multiple other ones talking about stuff like this. The current russian bias at top tier is not some accidental oopsie, they are deliberate decisions that serve a purpose. Acknowledging and fixing it would go directly against that purpose.
Yes.
No! they locked the KH38 thread remember xD
Now that you mention it, maybe we should be thankful that they ignore us this time…
It depends, teh BMPT stuff is actually breaking entire brackets of the game, the KH38 at least is somewhat able to be mitigated.
LMUR has done more damage than KH38 from what I’ve sene.
Its really a question of accessibility, isnt it? KH38s are annoying but theyre still 800-900SP Mi28NMs are a bit cheaper but everyone with a bit of grind can spawn 2 BMPTs and if you have a wallet and bad spending habits then you get 2 slightly less broken ones on top.
I don’t find this vehicle. I feel it is not exactly fair to encounter.
It has weaknesses, and I do not mind that it is relatively hard to kill in the chassis.
However I dislike how resilient it’s weapon systems are. They are too hard to disable, but it can peek only them over a hill.
The result is that if the BMPT is aware of their own few major weak spots, even if you get the jump on them you are unlikely to kill them in one shot, and will die before you can leave or reload. The external ammo portion makes it difficult to ammo rack either.
If we could shoot the main mantle that connects and holds all armaments, it should realistically disable all armaments and would make counterplay against it more viable; while not lowering it’s lethality or chassis durability. It should be easy to do however, any decent shell to the top should do it and not be stopped by the smaller parts.
This is just how I feel personally though.
Exactly man, as well as that the BMPT allows a far easier manner of grabbing said CAS.
I’m not one to say russian bias but the flavour of the patch is a bit much, the fact that a KH38 carrier as you said now is quite expensive it does help mitigate it a tiny bit.
Though at 11.7 what’s slamming lobbies is definitely the damn BMPTs
So they added this unplayable event for those who don’t have top tier jet in us/ussr tree so people stop talking about Bmpt? Well played gaijin !
War thunder is so balanced i love it