9.3 for the BMD-4 and 4M is too low compare to other IFV/Light tank, I know their armour can easily get pen by 7.62 but it firepower and the mobility is way outstanding in it BR. Just look at some of the IFV in game which having similar position with it, the chinese ZBD04 and british Desert Warrior are at BR 10.0. I not saying that it need to go 10.0 but it also not fitted at 9.3 because the BR have higher chance to downtier
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They’re fine where they are.
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Nah, they not. Just watching them deleted my german teammate 5 min after the match begin
Most 9.3 tanks can, doesn’t take 5 minutes to even get in position before the shooting starts.
9.7 sounds fine for me. BMD-4/M is pretty strong but facing 10.7 constantly isn’t great idea too
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Nah, only it can. Who the hell have the fire power to send half of the team back to hangar in 5 minute other than soviet in 8.3-9.3 match? IFV in this BR either lack of ATGM nor good autocannon nor mobility, the only thing which can manuever that fast and sending enough firepower at this br range is the BMD-4/4M
It will go up and not stay at 9.3, that much is very clear.
Just wait a while for gaijin to milk the untertiered vehicle, it will drop in BR when the sales start dropping off.
edit - changed 8.7 to 9.3
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8.7? Isn’t it at 9.3 right now?
Ah, brain fart, lol.
I can see it ending up at 10.3 easily, perhaps with an APFSDS dart to compensate.
Do you know how bad is those vehicles are? I mean, remove the missiles and you’ll know what I’m saying. The APDS round on the 30 mm 2A72 autocannon is terrible, barely can pierce angled armor even on light-medium tanks like the TAM and so on.
If the vehicles had a proper ammunition for the 30 mm autocannon, then yes, they could be easily had respective BR increased. I don’t support your idea and I believe you never played with those vehicles, I’m including BMP-3 too.
I forgot to mention that both vehicles you mentioned, ZBD04A and DW, both have APFSDS rounds. At 9.3 I believe only the BMD-4/4M and at 9.0 with the BMP-3 doesn’t have APFSDS rounds, which you can find in, if I’m not wrong, any other IFV vehicle at this BR range.
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Ok, that is not the cannon problem all APDS in game also have this problem
You right, I haven’t play them but from my BMP-2M experience (same ammo but have higher fire rate) the round itself have much more damage than the 30mm bushmaster APFSDS round
just give it APFSDS and throw it to 9.7, it could handle it
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Of course the same 2A42 auto cannon have the same decent efficiency from a 2A72 with half the fire rate. Good research you got there.
Everyone forgets the CV9030 sits at 9.3 and keeps comparing the BMD-4 to other similar vehicles at higher BR’s rather than co.paring it to the vehicles it shouldn’t even share a spot with to start.
Imo bump BMP-3 to 9.3 and both BMD’s up to either 10.0 or 9.7 with APFSDS like Mecar
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They’re fine where they are. Low survivability in exchange for lethality. Keep in mind that the BMP3 is 9.0, keep in mind that other nations have very strong vehicles around that BR. For example, China has a 9.0 line-up that consists of vehicles such as the PTL-02, AFT09, PTZ-89, just super strong vehicles - .3 below the BMDs. If you’re going to complain about something, ask why some 9.0 vehicles are still 9.0.
Haven’t playing they yet so doesn’t really know is they really they OP but I assume the PTL-02 and AFT09 had passed their OP period, I remember the time when the wheeled vehicle haven’t got their traction nerf, you will see them already snipping people from the snipping place, but even at those time you won’t see a bunch of them sending half of the team back to hangar
So what if skilled players use them?
BMD-4/4Ms equivalent iFVs/lights are all 9.3:
CV 9030FIN, Beigleitpanzer, VBC…
PTL02=a light tank with bad manoeuvrability, and a dm23 round. only thing good is thermals
AFT09 is just a missile spammer, no fire on the go, a subsonic missile and 8kph reverse.
PTZ89 is literally Obj 120 with half the reload speed. Oh yeah, +1.0 BR>
And I’d take all over BMD4. AFT09 ‘just a missile spammer’ - yeah, one that you can take to top-tier and nuke Leo 2A7 in one missile, let alone you have 4. They’re all super strong vehicles. Also, PTL02 and AFT09 can take hits that the BMD4 never can, full on darts going straight through them with little or no damage. While the BMD4 can’t even use the ‘no armor is best armor’, it just dies. China 9.0 is stronk as can be. Granted PTZ89 doesn’t need to go up in BR, it’s the most balanced out of the three i listed. But this whole topic is a nothing burger because the BMD4 itself doesn’t need to go up in BR.
Edit: Actually you know what? Do what you want, just leave my babies in peace.
Their mobility is fine, and the ATGM nerf never really impacted AFT09. They’re still doing what they do best. Played China 9.0 for the ground event last night and it was a good time, to say the least. Only thing you miss out on playing China 9.0 over 9.3 is the PGZ04A, but you have WZ305/PGZ09, so it’s fine.