BF-109s/FW-190s feel over tiered and could go down

It looks like that we are (generally speaking) on the same page as i wrote :

The BR setting of bombers looks like a complete separate thing.

From my pov they use a mix of maximum (TNT) damage output combined with a rather low emphasis on actual results until they are reliably more than a trend. That’s why bomber BR reductions take ages despite they die like flies.

The only sharp BR increases of bombers in the last 3-4 years i can remember were the BR increase of the Ju 88 A-4 from 2.3 to 3.0 (based on getting introduced in the Swedish TT) and the B-18B from 3.0 to 4.0 in just 2 rounds…

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checked again and it seems all 3 got a nerf because their WEP power only differs arround 80 HP between the D20, D10 and D30

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Now that’s an interesting development :D
Remember Defyn’s video about premium D10 and back then it was damn good.

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Mate I only realized how OP they were until I played on the other side. The E series are weak, but the F (esp. F4), G, and K are all really OP. IMO it’s a flying tank that lacks APHE.

Quite the contrary to me, E is OP, F1 is nice, but after that they were pretty mid. F4 does get to bully some of the planes, but G and K are certainly quite slow and not as dominant on turns. Fire power also inferior to russian stuff.

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Is E OP? I mean, it’s OK I guess. They can sometimes kill my Yak-2KABB. Sometimes.

Nah, it’s cuz of the skill floor. Countless times I’ve seen Emils flying tree-top level and ended up getting shot at by my Vought. The F1 (hell naw F2) is good since more players by then know how to play.

I mean F1 is where the kettle starts but it is also super fast and manoeuvrable at 2.7. Also that axial 20mm tears very well. Later on I just think yaks out run and turn u, and they also outgun u. Spitfires pretty much do the same, and then there are the A6s, also P51s and all those super turning and super energy fighters. U pretty much have no chance. When I played 109E I thought it was really good, sometimes better than F actually, kinda similar to IRL but after that it goes down hill. F4 is pretty much F1 but 1.3 BR up. IDK even what was upgraded.

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That’s IF you know how. Think abt averag German mains at that brain level, really.

Well yeah I do figure this is my second tech tree. But should that not be so with most other nations? I know there are a bunch of Soviet level 100s down in prop BR, but is there that much of a difference?

bf109f-g are utterly outclassed by the yak3/9 line and the k4 can only hope to compete with the utter unrealistic yak3u at high altitude. Also mg151s are some of the worse cannons at their br.

it’s because of this:

It probably feels like that because there’s a good amount of under tiered American planes that are very good kicking German ass after being dropped down by the diet of their pilots and the skill of their player

This is the case for all br’s from 3.0 to 8.0

Not even mentioning Russian UFO’s

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There aren’t any American prop planes that give German planes any issues (aside from maybe the XP-50 and 55). The bigger issue is soviet planes which have practically entirely fictional weapon performance and flight performance.

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Since .50 cal damage is fictional ,every US plane that uses .50 cal is fictional

Yes, I guess you could argue that .50cals being artificially nerfed compared to autocannons, and 12.7mm used by all other nations means .50cals as represented ingame are as fictional as 90% of the USSR tree.

.50 cals are so vastly overpowered that is laughable

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They deal less damage per second, and especially per shot than German 20mm HE.

Doesn’t matter when they are 3 x more powerful then irl