BF-109s/FW-190s feel over tiered and could go down

Tell me, what planes exactly are more OP yhan Pay2winin’s Yak-3 at 4.0, Yak-3U at 5.7 or BI.
OK, I forgot - B7A2 Homare. It should go to 4.3 in Air RB.

I love when people claim I have no idea about Air RB. Yeah, I am an absolute Air RB nooblord, rofl.

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I don’t have to compare overpowered planes with each other to figure out that the individual planes being compared are in fact, overpowered. There are many other examples of problematic planes that aren’t present in your comment. You hyperfocus on USSR planes because you have a fixation on the nation.

Well, I gave you the most blatant examples.
You haven’t provided any argument other than “you are wrong”. Which is not an argument. It’s just you wasting my time.

You seem to have a fixation on the nation. I simply mentioned overpowere planes. I don’t care if there are other overpowered planes. I would LOVE to see them fixed, but Yaks are most obvious and common in my games.

I guess I’m talking to some real Air RB champ and not random 52% WR scrub, right?

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Almost fully solo btw, I have almost never squadded up.

half of the usa prop tree is undertiered alone

57% WR - that’s the problematic territory. When you think you’re good, but you still aren’t. I had stats like that too, a few years ago except I thought I absolutely sucked at this game. :D
I’m also playing solo. My last month’s Air RB WR is 73%. My avg kills per battle is 2.88 because I was suicidially testing my ability to head-on people in Wyvern (I’m still bad at it).
I’m normally not using stats in discussion but god damn, if you really want to accuse me of not knowing my stuff, so be it.

Wyvern used to be OP.
It’s not. I’m happy about it. I own one.
B7A2 Homare is OP, but can be worked around. Hope it gets boosted to 4.3 or 4.7, broken little … (I own one BTW).
XP-50 used to be Op, it’s not. I own one.
G.55 S0 used to be very good, it’s not.
Meanwhile Yak-3 received super big buff to Shvak while Mg151/20 got nerfed hard, Berezin got buffed from annoyance to absolute killer. And Yak-3 sits at the same BR as when its cannon was horrible, Berezin was just a .50 cal with less ammo and German guns had good ballistics. Oh and back then Fw 190 A5/U2 was actually decent and G.55 S0 had working flaps and J2M2 was 4.3 too.
See the problem?
Everything has changed, Yak-3 remains and Pay2winin’s Yak-3 is very popular.
Same story with Yak-3U. It used to have mediocre guns. Now it’s very good in gun department. BR stays the same.

Depends. P-51H is a goddamn menace. But it plays in a bracket with BI, so guess what…
F4U4B, F4U4 can be worked around effectively.
Same with F2G, I have won dogfights against those in Fw 190 F8 multiple times.
P-51D10 is undertiered and should go up.
XP-55 should go up, indeed forgot about this one. I own one and would see it at 5.0 due to insane maneuvrability and armanent. But it’s kinda rare, luckily.

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They’re not overtiered. They only feel overtiered because the Bf-109s and Fw-190s that come before are undertiered.

nothing in 109/190 tree is undertiered, literally none of them

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Damn I wonder if those percentages are relating to the rest of the community, and by that standard it says I am top 5% minimum in all statistics it tracks by %? Weird idk

You are clearly better than me by stats, but I am clearly not bad. I said you didn’t know what you were talking about earlier, not that your stats were bad lmao. Going to continue this clown show with a reply?

You’re pretty damn bad and you shouldn’t try to make an argument based on skill, as you are basically the fodder for any decent player.
You can also simply send me your in-game nickname so I can check your statcard and have more reliable way of telling you how bad you are, as WT stats puts Ground RB and Air RB into the same basket.

Dude, once again - when I had stats like you, my aim was horrible I had little situational awareness and generally had no idea how to play this game outside of “climb at the beginning”. That was literally the only thing I needed to get to 56% avg WR.

I’m not saying you can’t get good one day. But compared to top 3000 players, you’re pretty bad.
If I compare you to the avg WT amoeba then yeah, you’re doing ok, but do you really want to hear that?

That doesn’t matter - i see every few games absolute morons getting 4-5 kills with one ammo load of 120 rounds 20 mm ShVak (Yak-3s) with it.

There is little to no reason to fly 109s or 190s these days.

???

A-8s excel in early game presence by farming bombers or afk climbers - otherwise they are usually a free kill.

But - I admit that i saw a NC 900 (190 A-8) a few weeks ago with 7 kills (good pilot). As this was such rare event i watched the replay:

  • This was a mix of luck, skill and plain incompetence of the enemy team - paired with a favorable Map with heavy clouds and a small lobby (max 12 vs 12), no 5.7 uptier with Yak-3Us , no JP players on their team.

  • He (with 0 kills) got pushed to the deck by an I-225, flew to a far distant corner of the map and the I-225 ran out of ammo as he sprayed the whole time.

  • I tried to help him but the distance was that great (i side climbed at the opposite side of the map - P-47) that that i was too late and in this weather it was impossible to find a dot or marker.

  • All of his kills were possible as the enemies came in one by one (they had murdered the rest of our team and played PvE) and had obviously never heard anything about stealth ammo, climbing, staying fast on very cloudy maps or how to avoid getting energy trapped or how to dodge/avoid head-ons.

  • He won the game basically alone, my sole purpose (as his last teammate) was to provide top cover, avoid a red square for him and to score a cheap 3rd party kill.

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Don’t bother with him. He doesn’t even fw catgirls.

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I know my skill :) (top 5% btw) Nice job flagging btw

A8 can work quite well but there’s a requirement - aggression and luck. You know the performance is bad, so you know you have little to offer outside of head ons. So you push them. You have 4 cannos and 2 MGs. 0,1s of firing time is often enough. You need luck when predicting enemy flight patrerns as ballistics are absolutely horrible.
That thing is super bad performance wise.
But I can make it and F8 work on a regular basis. Yak-3U and similar powerhouses often underestimate you. Then they get hit a few times. I use this plane to create early chaos and 3rd party people left and right.
I’m not very good with it, but I can confidently say even now it works in Air RB way better than it has ANY right to do.
But for longer games I prefer D9.
D9 suffers from advertised speed being a dream and if your team is bad, you won’t be doing much unless enemy gives you just enough breathing room. But when they do… I mean, I hold the current high score for D9 (unless someone finally made an effort to play it right :P) would be stupid of me to talk bad things about this plane. It sometimes works!

Anyway, you’re kinda right that for real best performance and general enjoyment it makes little sense to fly German planes. Even pretty good G6 feels like fighting against the odds, when you meet Yak-3 almost co-alt and he turns better, pulls better at high speed, is better armed and rolls better too. Or when B7A2 denies your climbing advantage and roflsnipes you from 1000m away

ammo isnt a problem if you aim and there guns hit way harder and all 109s have from 120 to 240 20mm rounds and 1000 rounds for 7.7s and like 500 for 13mms but they do no damage

even in head ons it can still loose to other cannon fighters cause there guns do more damage by a lot

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