BF 109 G-2 in swedish tech tree - Trop or Non Trop version? so how is it?!

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Hello everyone, in the Swedish tech tree there is a Finnish Bf 109 G-2 which does not have a dust air filter, just like the Italian premium G-2 or the Romanian G-2. So it is non-trop version too, right? But unlike those two, which have a slightly better performance than the German Tropical variant (according to the stat card), the Finnish one does not have a slightly better “non-trop” stat card like the premium ones, but a “tropical” stat card, same as 109 G-2/trop. So what’s wrong? Is the stat card wrong? Or did the gaijin copy/paste the wrong plane?

Is this just a pay4win strategy Gaijin? or is it “false advertising”? and in reality the premium G-2s fly just like the G-2/trop?

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The trop vs non trop versions just boil down to top speed, IIRC its a difference of like 2-5kmh?

I’m pretty sure they’re the non-trop variants, because ofcourse those places are cold as hell.

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The difference is 14 kph at top speed. And of course, what would a 109 with a dust air filter be doing in Finland? Well, it has no filter of course, but as I said, the stat card for the Finnish 109 G-2 is the same as the G-2/trop, instead of having the same stat card as premium non-trop G-2s.

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Huh, thought it was only down to barely a few kph.

Must be a bug? Try bug reporting it and see if it holds up.

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I don’t have the Swedish G-2 else I’d offer to do it.

Using WTRTI,

you could maybe do a time to speed from take off and time to altitude from take off with the benchmarking tool.

It should give you absolute values.

If flying with full-real controls, I recommend enabling autotrim (downgrading to realistic) to remove pilot error from uncoordinated flight.

You could also display drag values and also record them as function of IAS.

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Sounds familiar - i saw a year ago an almost identical thread:

As gaijin has the habit to fiddle with certain parameters i recommend to follow this recommendation:

only then you know the truth.

Final recommendation:

Use the G-6 instead of the G-2 in the Swedish TT - from my perspective full downtiers to 4.3-3.3 in Swedish teams are rather rare (only exception if you have some Israeli Sakeens with you) and you fighting chances vs the Yak-3 spam increase drastically…

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I’m mainly put off by the matchmaking when it comes to teams, the Swedes are very often in teams with US teams, that’s something I probably don’t want to experience again.

I’m just looking for a 109 that I can start from scratch with a clean slate (I mean statistics).

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I remember you, you’re the one who always remembers everything on this forum.

Half a year ago, you remembered our half-year-old conversation about XP50 very well. (and now its a year old debate)

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Flying with/for US teams is always exiting 😉Refusing to fly / fight with US teams is killing your chances to have either really epic matches or to increase your personal patience threshold to the next level.

Nothing better than flying 1 vs 6 every 2nd or 3rd match. 😁Or winning 1 vs 9 with just 1 kill…

Having a good memory has also some downsides 😉And i just remember WW 2 prop related issues - because that’s my thing…

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@Budkyns Most Finnish airfields at the time were unpaved, so dust being kicked up by prop wash was a problem in summer time. While the severity of the dust issue varied between airfields, it became a huge issue in the Suulajärvi airfield, requiring the 24th Squadron’s Bf-109G-2’s flown from there fitted with Trop filters.

The speed difference issue between Trop and non-Trop G-2 is pretty minor compared to the fact that both Finnish G-6’s are overperforming as Gaijin copy-pasted the FM from german one that uses MW-50 boosted 1800hp DB605AM engine, while Finnish G-6’s only used the early 1475hp DB-605A-1 from G-2 (with exception of two planes which had high altitude 1475hp DB-605AS)

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What you say may be true and it is very interesting, but the Finnish 109 G-2 in the game does not have a dust air filter, and its not a trop variant, but it probably has a flight model of trop variat. Stat card saying this.