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I would like to suggest this German captured russian Armored car, in its german modified variant with its 20mm Becker M.II instead instead of its original armarment of a 3,7 cm Flak M14 L/29 aka. 37mm Maxim-Nordenfelt 1 Pdr Autocannon “Pom-Pom”, which would make a good duo with its german made ammo in combination with the (other suggestion).
This would fit very well in with a WW1 Mode as an combined AT and AA vehicle, as its relatively mobile, slightly armored (4-5mm) and with a relatively good 20mm gun with good fire rate, while even in current playstyle it would still be usable, duo to having usable He rounds with good fire rate, while the AP performance is relatively usable, but mostly it would stand out in a WW1-Interwar mode. Even tho with a somewhat limited elevation range.
History:
The first battles with cannon armed armored cars such as the Mannesmann-Mulag and other similar armed vehicles, showed their power and potential, as such development was continued and more newer designes produced. At the end of 1914 it was decided to continue with the new developemnt as such 2 new armored cars based on Mannesmann-Mulag chassis and 2 similar looking Armored cars based on the Packard truck were constructed. These first appeared in Spring 1915.
Overall these were promising and good designes, however the only 2 produced Packard-Izhorsky Armored cars were captured by germany in the spring of 1918 in Dvinsk.
While the exact first usage for them is more or less unknown, they were later modified and improved, by exchanging the 37mm Gun with a 20mm Becker M.II, by also extending the roof for space for the Magazin, as well as mounting a Gunshield with an Mg 08 on the front roof and 2 more Mg 08 on the vehicle, on the front side of the box and in a pocket in the rear.
They were mainly used in 1919 in Bavaria by the Freikorps Wolf with the Bayerisches Schützenkorps in the fighting from 01-03. May in München against the communist troops.
The Gun:
20mm Becker M.II
-10° to +35-50° (?) 360° Traverse (or only 300°)
~2400 rounds reserve
2 cm Becker M.II
Pictures:(Click to show)
One of the first modern type 20mm Cannon and served as the basis for the later Oerlikon 20mm FF guns. Using the API Blowback action. It was Intended as a AA and AT gun, on ground, vehicles and planes/airships. Later M3 variant was heavyer, reducing the fire rate to 250 rpm but velocity to 700m/s.
It was intended as 20mm, to not be a warcrime to have an explosive filling, overall the ammo layout was also quite modern, with multiple AP rounds, HE rounds as well as incendary rounds.
Caliber: 20mm
Ammo: 20x70mmRB Becker
Fire Rate: 325 rpm
Single Shot, Full auto, 15 rounds Magazin
Muzzle velocity: 490-500m/s
Weight: 30kg
Mounting: Main Tank gun, Fixed and flexible
Ammo Types: Ap-T, I-T, I, HEI, HE
Summary Of ammo Drawings:(Click to show)
(The drawing isnt fully correct, as the nose is too thinn drawn.)
AP:
Panzergeschoß L'Spur Modell 1 (ApI-T) 145g 490m/s 18mm/10m
(Can be conciddered ApI-T, duo to huge tracer filling, made of Barium Nitrate, Magnesium and Shellac of 7g.)
Panzergeschoß L’Spur Modell 2 (ApI-T) (Identical to first one, different head form, see in above summary.)
HE:
Sprenggeschoß Modell 1 (He High capcity, Fuzeless) 137 g
5,5g TNT + 0,5g Pieic acid 495m/s (See ammo Summary)
Incendary:
Brandgeschoß (I) 137g 12g Incendary 495m/s some penetration
Leuchtspurgeschoß (I-T) 144g Barium Nitrate, Magnesium, Shellac filler 11g 490m/s some penetration
(A bit incorrect here)
The Vehicle:
Packard-Izhorsky Armored Car (Pickard 3 Ton truck)
Engine: 32,4 Ps
Speed: Either 26-27 or 19 km/h
Armor: Gunshield and front 5mm, rest 4mm
Crew: 7
Weight: 5,760 kg
Source:
Reinhard Frank: Waffen-Arsenal
Geschossringbuch I
Historic Military Vehicles Directory
Handbook of the 1-PR Q.F. Gun (War Office UK 1902)
Packard motor trucks