so which 13.0/14.0 is the best gun fighter right now its been awhile is it still eurofighter or is it F/A-18C late or is it J10 or Raphale and why ?
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Rafale is an absolute UFO
If it was russian there would be about 100 threads about it right now
Eurofighter or Rafale is the best at 14.0. At 13.0 the best would be the Gripen.
Nah the F-2 is easily the best 13.0 dogfighter.
what about J10 ? cause i know J10 does pretty good too yeah ?
gets outclassed by the eurofighter and rafale… you have to be lucky to win…
it might even lose against the f-2a under certain szenario´s(havent tested it yet)…
what about F/A-18
dont know I dont have it available for tests but I doubt this should be anywhere close to the eurofighter and I havent seen any f18 who got me in a turnfight in the f-2a… seems like its not even worth the grind testing…
but air rb vs other players is not a good arguement… knowing the players and the gameplay(missile spam)…
F-2 loses to both the EF and Rafale in a guns only fight
I specified 13.0. IK it’s only like third/fourth best 14.0.
mb then
F-15A might be able to win as well
that seems to me like an equal fight
In pure gunfight, the EF trounce on everything but the rafale, which arrives in close second. J10 apparently has a model similar to the M2K before its FM change (and better TWR ?), so I expect it to be great but no the best.
F2A is apparently better than the Gripen, so I could do them in third and fourth respectively in guns only dogfight.
I don’t see the F18C being anywhere close to those 4 because it just loses speed way to fast, and the others can just run circles around it.
F15A could put up a fight. The others are just worst in most metrics to win dogfights
My order (Take it with a grain of salt)
Rafale- the thing is a goddam UFO
Eurofighter- Can beat a rafale sustained, had a better TWR but flops around like a fish out of water
F-2- If it survives the first few turns against 4th place (JAS39) it will win eventually
JAS39- Beats everything else on this list and against an F-2 puts up a good fight
F-16A Block 10- Still very strong in 2 circle fights
J-10A
JF-17
F-16ADF
F-15A
F-16C
F-15C
Su-27SM
F/A 18C Late
Mirage 4000
Mirage 2000
I would put su27sm over f15c
Other: AV-8B Plus
Reason:
i mostly agree besides a few
the F-15A is way to low it is equal or even slightly better than the F-16A blk10
this whole section should be above the F-15C and F-16C imo:
lucky you that the Yak-141 dosent fit into the criteria of this thread
f-16c beats all of them