The Begleitpanzer should have APDS, the 2S38 is not so far from the it.
APDS would be a good addition.
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What APDS?
Did it ever use APDS?
What kind of APDS was it?
What was its weight?
What was its caliber?
What was its muzzle velocity?
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The vehicle carried an ammunition supply of 48 cartridges 57 mm ammunition consisting of APDS-T, APCBC-T, SAPHECBC-T and HE-T , with six anti-tank guided missiles. the length with cannon in 12 o’clock position: 7.48 m; the height: 2,51 m.
look search it up
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or idk
im maybe wrong
It literally dosnt need it. Its a strong enough vehicle as is and has a decent matchmaker and lineup with it at 9.3. If it was to get APDS the only thing that means is it will go up in BR.
You got this from wikipedia which is not a reliable source of information and the sources/references provided on the wikipedia page do not say anything about it using APDS-T. This is also why on wikipedia there is the citation needed tag after it which means someone is requesting a source to validate the information.
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Not to mention that even the ammunition count mentioned is not even the same as what it is in the game
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bruh im just stupid lmao
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only reason why id agree with it getting APDS is so it goes up in BR and makes mid tier less full of spamcanons
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If I’m not wrong it was supposed to carry APFSDS but the information regarding that has been classified and since the project has been canceled they didn’t bother to declassify it and it remains at that. If you know someone who works for Thyssen-Henschel or Bofors remind them to declassify begleitpanzer 57 APFSDS and we will have it in game :D (of course at the cost of it going up in BR, somewhere around 10.0 maybe)
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why is “It will go up in BR” a defense used by people who doesn’t want to see a vehicle getting better equipment. Fuck off, the whole point of adding better equipment is so it can sees stronger enemy whilst being strong in and of itself.
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IRL it had APFSDS and an IRST for anti aircraft use.
the details of the ammunition are classified but this may be related (or not at all)
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Burden of proof lies with the person making the claim
There is proof that the begleitpanzer had APFSDS and more.
I can share this at the moment:
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This is EVIDENCE, not “proof” - what is the document?
lol - I used to subscribe to IDR back in the late 70’s!! Shame I haven’t kept any of them.
However this looks aspirational - there is no evidence for ADFSDS for the 57mm Bofors Mk 1 other than that article by the look
There are various requests for any info available on it unanswered on several forums including here as below:
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That’s an inference, because that reply does not actually say it is classified - it says there is no public information - which may mean classified or non-existent.
And if classified also says nothing about what system it was intended for or when it was built or even if it is anything more than a design proposal.
Then he wouldve said no information.
No need to say no public information if he could say no information.
Hence there was something.
The topic was abt the begleitpanzer so it is regarding this tank.
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This thing is from 1977 and the closest it ever got to becoming real was in 1978 when a prototype was tested and canceled right after no one was interested in buying it and 46 years have passed since then
How much hope can someone have hope for a vehicle to keep info about it secret for 46 years
Do they like think that begleit will some day be revived and some country’s gonna buy it? And it’s not even gonna do anything much in modern battles, there are far better vehicles than begleit in modern times anyways