I agree with Razerguy.
Give apfsds to the begleit and up it to 10.3
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still not as good as 2S38 as no gen 3 thermals, no irst, no tracking, and no swim
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Begleit should at least move up to 10.0, it’s an excellent multi role platform, just like the strv9040b with a better ready rack.
I’d say 9.7 is more reasonable.
Unless it getz tandem ATGM to compensate.
Move it to 9.7 and you got no lineup besides the TOW wiesel and the stinger wiesel/stinger gepard. No MBT whatsoever unless you uptier Germany 9.3 or uptier 9.7 tanks to 10.0 for leo 2k
So we base BR on lineups and not how good the vehicle is?
No, but moving it to 9.7 would decrease the amount of people using it
That’s true, but the solution isn’t to keep it at 9.3 or increase it all the way to 10.0.
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move that to the 2s38s current BR and move 2s38 to 11.7
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bro really mentioned the dozer blade as if it’s actually useful just for the sake of making the argument longer
i mean bagle is pretty good hull down as its gunner is inside the hull and cant really be shot at (rip commander)
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The only way you can kill it when it’s hull down is HE, but if you don’t have that then you have to use HEATFS (which is less reliable), or you have to shoot its ATGM before they shoot it.
Which would move the Begleit to 10.7 - 11.0, and HSTVL to 12.7.
And they listened to these ********. Soviet mains are playing different war thunder, maybe they should have separate server, so they can infinitely fight eachother with their Su-25BM vs 2S6, or Su-30SM vs BUk and pantsir or something.
You’ve just went the polar opposite as well:
10.7 USSR ain’t that good. It’s decent but there are better trees.
the top tier USSR have you played? it sucks for the most part the BUK from what i’ve seen is still no where near as good as IRIS -T yet no one is complaining about that
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Skill issue is unreal.
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Nah he’s right, ussr is strong but its not some OP tree generally
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You talking about skill issues is absurd.
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Skill issue ? in what manner?
That I’ve actually got USSR at top tier and will say past the first T series tanks it doesn’t really get much better or change much.
I do really enjoy some of them like the T64B or T80UD etc.
But the 10.7 lineup isn’t that good at all, theres technically one tank in it with the T80B which sure is nice having a reverse, but I’d much rather the all round capabilities + reload of the leopard 2a4 or abrams at the same BR, or the CR1 which just rofl stomps it in every way bar frontline speed.
It’s nice to use in some areas, others it sucks, people assume that because it’s got a lof stuff that it’s all good, inherently it means there is more slop.
Oh object 140 is rightnice too.
I don’t even know who they are tbh
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2S6, Su-25BM, a heli and a 2S25M which is heavily undertiered.
Now compare to Italy and Britain, USA, Germany or some other shit.
T-80B beats most of the tanks in acceleration and speed. Downtiers are granted and you possibly cannot face anything scary anymore.
Soviet mains have a severe skill issue, that’s why G.91YS was 9.7, that’s why OTOMATIC is how it is right now, that’s why Ariete is 12.3 and AGS is 12.0
Major unbearable skill issue.