Begleitpanzer 57 to 10.3 like the 2s38

Do I read like I’m joking?

Incase you can’t tell; I am genuinely, unapologetically, unquestionably serious.

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it’s a vehicle with subpar acceleration , zero armor , with the only good thing going for it being the gun

So you want Begleitpanzer to 10.7/11.0, and HSTVL to 12.7 if you’re pro-balance.
However, there’s a possibility you want German, Swedish, and American bias.

If only that was actually the case - I wouldn’t have an issue with it if it was.

that is the case?

No, no it isn’t.

I could see 9.7 but even at 9.3 it’s a 99% guarantee it will be in 10.3 battles.

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it’s not really much better than HSTV-L, why should i be a higher BR than it?

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lol no it’s not. It hasn’t even reached low rate production. It’s still in testing 🤣

It is absolutely better than the HSTVL. Better ammo. More ammo. Better IRST tracking for air targets. Unmanned turret.

Hell, you obviously don’t know that the HSTVL is already at 11.7, meaning that I want to put the 2S38 at the same BR as it, at minimum.

Your bias machine can go to 11.7 and it will still perform just fine.

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wow, the gaslighting is toxic beyond my tolerance, im glad i put you on block

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yeaaaaah AlvisWisla is kinda like that lol

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bro said HSTV-Ls gun is weak and somehow alvis pulls it out of the void that hes saying that about the 2S38 as well lmao

huh??? I mean I can kinda get the idea, but the 57mm on the 2S38 I would argue is better then the HSTVL you lose 50 whole pen which lets be real at top tier doesnt really matter all that much, but gain triple the fire rate and a 148 round auto loader, like Idk how you can think thats weak but eh

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exactly, my guy was saying hstvl isnt as good as 2s38 but alvis does what alvis does.

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What’s wrong with you? HSTV only has 26 rounds, while 2S38 has over 100 rounds. 2S38 is better than HSTV, as it can fire more ammunition in the same amount of time, posing a more serious threat and having more ammunition to continue fighting. Is the engine quieter? What’s the use of that? Can’t you adjust the volume yourself? In terms of the penetration depth of a single shell, the opponent faced by 2S38 can be completely penetrated, while HSTV may not be. Compared to 2S38, HSTV is just a clown with a little more penetration depth

@Armen_Lozone
“Leopard 2A7 is weak.”
“So that statement is implying 2A5 is useless.”
“GASLIGHTING!”

That’s not what gaslighting means.
Keep blocking most of the forum for stating basic facts.

This. Of course Armen likely thinks Smugspite is gaslighting now.

@Angelsmile
26 rounds, at worst-case 3 rounds per tank, that’s a KDR of 8:1
I don’t even bring 50 rounds of APFSDS in 2S38.
I don’t bring more than 50 rounds of AP in Begleitpanzer.
I’m not trying to get a KDR above even 4:1 in these tanks.

Sure, move the bagel to 10.3

Can we move the 2s38 to 11.3 with the OTOMATIC?

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Sure, when HSTVL goes to 12.3. :)


Still stock.