Begleitpanzer 57 to 10.3 like the 2s38

Strf 9040C. is no where close to 2s38 performance.

It has less gun elevation, only 50 deg vs the 2s38 75 deg so it cant shoot upwards at planes flying above it.
2s38 gets 225m penentration on its APDSFS, Strf 9040C only 143mm much more able to pen/disable MTB’s from the front
2s38 gets the option for APHE shots so when it pulls off a flank and can hit a MTB from the side or behind it can kill all the crew with less shots

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Gun elevation does not matter much against tanks.
Talking about aircraft is 100% irrelevant, 2S38 is not 9.7, there’s zero reason to talk about its 9.3 - 9.7 anti-air performance.
APHE is an 8.3 round at best, which makes it irrelevant for the discussion of a 10.3 vehicle.
Strf 9040C also pens 168 flat and 194 angled, not 143.
Which the difference would matter if Abrams had its correct turret ring, which it doesn’t.

HSTVL is superior to your favorite light tank in all ways, deal with that fact however you want.

Begleit/2S38 is half the acceleration of my HSTVL, far worse rounds, worse optics; the only thing 2S38 has over my HSTVL is thermal generation cause it’s newer.

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Anti Air performance is not irrelevant, Helicopters and planes are a huge part of the game.
If you cant maintain air superiority aircraft will roll the entire game.

2S38 can match the Italian OTOMATIC a 11.3 AA gun at Shooting planes and Helicopters
Compared to the HSTV a 11.7 as a tank Destroyer
HSTV gets slightly better penetration 276mm vs 225mm a Difference of 51mm.
2S38 gets better rate of fire 0.5 seconds vs 1.5 seconds on the HSTV
So they are about equal on firepower

2S38 is a 11.7 light tank, a 11.3 AA gun all rolled into 1 package at 10.3

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Anti-air performance only matters in relation to the BR of other aircraft, not tanks.
OTOMATIC is 9.7 - 10.3 in SPAA capability, not 11.3; It’s 11.x because of its APFSDS round.
HSTVL has superior firepower as your post proves.
2S38 is no where near as good as HSTVL; Stop with the Russian propaganda, Russia did not make a vehicle anywhere close to as good as HSTVL. It wouldn’t get sales due to the expense if they did.

2S38 has inferior firepower while being half the acceleration.

Russia didn’t make the 2s38, it doesn’t exist in reallife, whats in the game is based on imaginary propaganda numbers for the 2S38’s promised performance when and if they build it


It’s built, it’s a production vehicle, they just have no major clients for it.
The fact your post claims that Begleit speed, an average-penning 57mm APFSDS round, and standard thermal generation for 2020 is “imaginary” is itself hilarious…

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I mean… I wouldnt say its a production vehicle…

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it functionally doesn’t exist. they have a couple of none functional cosmetic only knock ups they like to use for parades and that’s it. its not a real combat vehicle

Absolutely horrendous take, please never suggest something like this again in the future

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Now I dont wanna stick up for a 2s38 player but… it does exist and work lol

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I’m barely a 2S38 player. I primarily used it after I watched a video on how to play Begleit, and then I adopted its tactics to other auto-lights.

I just want things to be balanced, and moving Begleit & 2S38 up to ridiculous BRs ain’t balance.

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you gotta admit the 2s38 is like 10.7 worthy at least tho?

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Not at this time. It’s too early for any of us to determine if 10.3 is low for it as it has been there for less than a week. I got my wish of it moving to 10.3, and its not like the MBTs at its BR can’t easily deal with it so it’s more of whether or not other auto-lights are balanced around 2S38 more than MBTs.
Right now it’s among its kind, and Abrams’ turret ring isn’t fixed that would potentially prevent Strf 9040C from penning it.

It would be 10.3 if it received APFS-DS, its helicopter warning and tracking capabilities, a bigger ammo rack and HOT ATGMs.

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It’s a fully operational vehicle, actually the AU-220M is a cannon used in coastal fleet ships, it was adapted for use in ground vehicles like BMP-3 with the Bajkal FCS,

Also, it entered service in 2023 to replace 2S6.

HSTVL only has a lower body, nothing else is considered an advantage,
Compared to the weaknesses faced by 2S38, the attack efficiency of 2S38 is much higher。
And the firepower advantage brought by his turret is incomparable to the former, not just because it is short. The height of different shelters can compensate for this

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HSTVL is double speed in acceleration while being the fastest tank in the game in top speed.
HSTVL also fires the 2nd best round of the auto-lights, with only VCC-80/60 firing a better round at 9.0.
2S38 is not as good as your post claims. Russia made an inferior weapon to HSTVL because 2S38 needs to be affordable to get sales.
If 2S38 was anywhere close to as powerful as HSTVL it would’ve never gotten passed prototyping due to costs.

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“good thermals” he said, they are gen 1 💀

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Compared to WW2 Thermals their great

In-game, it’s arguably better (especially at the BRs they are right now).