wow, the gaslighting is toxic beyond my tolerance, im glad i put you on block
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yeaaaaah AlvisWisla is kinda like that lol
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bro said HSTV-Ls gun is weak and somehow alvis pulls it out of the void that hes saying that about the 2S38 as well lmao
huh??? I mean I can kinda get the idea, but the 57mm on the 2S38 I would argue is better then the HSTVL you lose 50 whole pen which lets be real at top tier doesnt really matter all that much, but gain triple the fire rate and a 148 round auto loader, like Idk how you can think thats weak but eh
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exactly, my guy was saying hstvl isnt as good as 2s38 but alvis does what alvis does.
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What’s wrong with you? HSTV only has 26 rounds, while 2S38 has over 100 rounds. 2S38 is better than HSTV, as it can fire more ammunition in the same amount of time, posing a more serious threat and having more ammunition to continue fighting. Is the engine quieter? What’s the use of that? Can’t you adjust the volume yourself? In terms of the penetration depth of a single shell, the opponent faced by 2S38 can be completely penetrated, while HSTV may not be. Compared to 2S38, HSTV is just a clown with a little more penetration depth
@Armen_Lozone
“Leopard 2A7 is weak.”
“So that statement is implying 2A5 is useless.”
“GASLIGHTING!”
That’s not what gaslighting means.
Keep blocking most of the forum for stating basic facts.
This. Of course Armen likely thinks Smugspite is gaslighting now.
@Angelsmile
26 rounds, at worst-case 3 rounds per tank, that’s a KDR of 8:1
I don’t even bring 50 rounds of APFSDS in 2S38.
I don’t bring more than 50 rounds of AP in Begleitpanzer.
I’m not trying to get a KDR above even 4:1 in these tanks.
Sure, move the bagel to 10.3
Can we move the 2s38 to 11.3 with the OTOMATIC?
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I think you missed my point.
If anything the Oto should come down in BR.
Oh look, my point. Tho I said it more directly.
Lmao, clown take.
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How is that more direct?
I didn’t bring up the HSTVL, I addressed the original post and pointed out how ridiculous it is to want the bagel to move up to the 2s38 while things like the Oto are sitting far too high.
Here, earlier in the topic.
Didn’t see it.
But my point still stands, I’m not sure what the HSTVL has to do with my post.
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The HSTV-L should go down to 10.0 or 10.3 and the 2S38 should go up to 11.3, it would preform only slightly differently but be a good change for it
lol Absolute Russian propaganda.
2S38 is inferior.
Yh why not? The 2s38 needs more and more BR update its a 11.7 IFV put at 10.3 but the Begleit also need a little br update like 10.3
Nah. I’d rather not face an HSTVL in 9.3 tanks. 2S38 is much slower and easier to kill. Also, aren’t the Strf 9040 and Lvkv 9040 somewhat comparable to the 2S38?
Another thing, if the HSTV-L and 2S38 are equivalent (or one is slightly better), why are you saying they should have a 1.3 BR difference?
The 2S38 is better but by only a small margin, because of 2S38’s higher rate of fire it can make up for the slight disadvantage of round damage. The HSTV-L is more survivable but both should be atleast 11.3