Begleitpanzer 57 to 10.3 like the 2s38

2S38 is not 10.0, it’s 10.3.

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Aren’t engines supposed to operate at a certain temperature for various reasons in all conditions, with cooling system being in charge of keeping that temperature in check by increasing/decreasing flow of coolant through it’s core ?
If this is true, engine core and exhaust gases pushed into the surrounding air (if exhaust pipe is short enough) should have pretty similar temperature regardless of the environment.

I guess that’s better than nothing, most IRs struggle to lock past 3km which is nuts.

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Well, I’m not sure exactly how they had implemented it, but I know (based on experience) that colder environments tend to make them harder to lock on with IR missiles.


They had also changed how they are picked up on thermals, so maybe this also affects their thermal signature levels for the IR seeker too.

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I’m not really familiar with their coding either but that seems counter-intuitive, at least in my eyes.

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ok?

hmm…

i would advise you to scan the rest of this discussion or similar discussions, then
you’re in the germany discord, we have a whole thread on this.

ykw here you go

Not enough to be noticeable.

For traditional radiator controlled engines, your thermostat will be cycling the same temperature fluid once it’s up to temp unless it’s so cold outside it can’t get/maintain the thermostat to open fully, or so hot that the radiator is in over temp regardless of OAT

For Turbine engines, they’re mostly. Maintained by some sort of engine control module that keeps them running at about the same temp most of the time.

The only real difference will be the difference between them and the surrounding conditions.

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You are more or less correct. In cold weather a IR seeker will be more effective. WT has just badly implemented / coded them, especially in regards to non HIRSS equipped helicopters.

  1. Thats the only point i get with you, but tbh with HE-VT it is only about a few skill to easily handle it the same as the 2s38
  2. Still even Top Tier US (Clickbait) hasn’t get gen. 2 thermal
  3. As light tanks both a most comon oneshot, while the german BG-57 has its engine in the front, which protects the crew and tank if ur lucky 1-2 shots
  4. seriosly? this thing is more useless than mine protection addon lmao

I agree with Razerguy.
Give apfsds to the begleit and up it to 10.3

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still not as good as 2S38 as no gen 3 thermals, no irst, no tracking, and no swim

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Begleit should at least move up to 10.0, it’s an excellent multi role platform, just like the strv9040b with a better ready rack.

I’d say 9.7 is more reasonable.
Unless it getz tandem ATGM to compensate.

Move it to 9.7 and you got no lineup besides the TOW wiesel and the stinger wiesel/stinger gepard. No MBT whatsoever unless you uptier Germany 9.3 or uptier 9.7 tanks to 10.0 for leo 2k

So we base BR on lineups and not how good the vehicle is?

No, but moving it to 9.7 would decrease the amount of people using it

That’s true, but the solution isn’t to keep it at 9.3 or increase it all the way to 10.0.

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move that to the 2s38s current BR and move 2s38 to 11.7

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bro really mentioned the dozer blade as if it’s actually useful just for the sake of making the argument longer

i mean bagle is pretty good hull down as its gunner is inside the hull and cant really be shot at (rip commander)

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