I use both when I’m bored and just want to go on unimpeeded rampages. Although it saddens me, both should be moved up by a step or two.
No! these are some of the only borderline OP vehicles Britain has.
It should be more effective at longer ranges but i find it to wiggle too much so i just use it as i said before.
Solid AP shell is more annoying than a same caliber apfsds that can pen leo 2 from the front, nice one
Oh it’s not even in the top 5 🤣
bagleits br is good the problem is that 2s38 is underbrd and most other no missile only autocannon ifvs are overbrd like cv9030fin which is no where near bagleit in terms of strenght
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okay sure the begleit first should get its apfsds
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I mean, yeah, it has a APHE shell with more pen than the begliet if they want more spall. Also, the begliet’s shell velocity is piss poor, aiming it is a nightmare sometimes (950 m/s on begliet AP vs 15000m/s on 2s38 apfsds)
Yh man the 2s38 have 15km for seconds of shell LOL ahahaha
Why? If he receives the apds mean that receive laser warning and IRST so at least i should be moved up to 11.3
oh and a infinite first stage ammo with i think 148 shells? meanwhile the begliet first stage ammo is 48 clips and reloads pretty slow. 2s38 can literally hold down the trigger continuously without any consequence
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You spam topics/posts, You cannot accept the disadvantage of the United States in the game, promote its strength, belittle Russia to gain greater advantages in the game, HSTV’s anti air peers are all~9.0, prime it’s M247. And 2S38 has a huge ammunition quantity and unlimited loading and third-generation thermal imaging advantages, but stays at 10.0
HSTV’s anti air capability is 8.0 at best. Compared to M247, it lacks radar and ammunition quantity, and the disadvantage of ammunition quantity is not as good as 2S38. Therefore, ground combat should be lower than 2S38,
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You have no ability to put yourself in others’ shoes and are self contradictory. While saying that others are praising America’s shortcomings and that American things should be worse than Russia’s, you also emphasize that things like HSTV are better than 2S38. It’s really speechless
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Which is true, mobility is worth so much more than a slightly better reload. The 2S38 is more comparable to some 10.X IFVs. I doubt anyone who thinks that it is worse has actually played both, or done a genuine comparison between the two.
Just like the 2S38.
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@Angelsmile
I’ll keep my empathy close, and keep taking into account the perspectives of thousands of players.
I’ll keep being consistent.
I’ll keep arguing against artificially buffing vehicles, namely Soviet vehicles. [Artificial nerfs are something I also oppose generally.]
It’s interesting your post argues that 2S38 and HSTVL’s anti-air are 8.0 at best, neither of which are anti-air platforms.
Anti-air capability does not impact ground combat capabilities.
2S38’s anti-air ammo capacity is not relevant to ground combat capabilities. Many players only bring 16 rounds of ammo into matches, 26 is more than enough for a ground vehicle to take on other ground vehicles. My 2S38 and Begleit have ~40 rounds of AP, the rest being empty or proxy fuse munition.
Oh and 2S38 was brought up to 10.3 as I wished for.
And yes, I’ll keep defending American vehicles from Russian propaganda and similar arguments.
Prove to the entire planet that 2S38 goes 83kph, accelerates faster than all but VT1-2, has a 76mm gun firing a 1kg round penning at least 270mm… but those features would only make it on-par with HSTVL, not superior.
I just returned what he gave me intact. The point is that the weight of 2S38 is too low. As I said before, the mobility of HSTV requires experience to use. There are risks, compared with 2S38 ammunition, firepower and thermal imaging advantages. Above 1.7 is obviously unreasonable, and Russia is too strong in the game, which is obvious.
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You have no reason to oppose me. This strange weight conversion was proposed by you (2S38’s air defense capability is lower than 9.0, M247). I am just explaining the weight of HSTV according to your point of view. I have already overturned your point of view, but you are unwilling to accept it.
And your so-called acceleration is only a temporary speed, and the difference in actual moving speed is not much. You think that he can gain an advantage by running fast simply because the opponent’s observation ability is low, which leads to being killed. In fact, running too fast can cause uncontrollable jumping and movement due to the light body, which is the most common case of being discovered and killed.
The 76MM cannon you emphasized has a lower destructive ability against Leopard 2A5, A6, BVM, and even M1A2 compared to the 57MM against Leopard 2A4, M1, and other tanks. Moreover, the 2S38 has a faster firing rate, which allows it to damage the opponent and destroy the barrel. Moreover, the 2S38 can penetrate the front weak point area of most tanks in the same class in 10.3. Moreover, the number of appearances of 2S38 users in 11.7 is not lower than that of HSTV, which is enough to prove the excellence of 2S38
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Fire rate does not matter against tanks which are more than 3x slower to reload.
Why doesn’t it matter? You can shoot more times in a shorter time to destroy the barrel, so that the other side can’t resist.
It seems that you can’t take advantage of this vehicle at all.
I think you are a novice player, so you can only stay where you are and be a fixed battery.
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The number of appearances of M22 users in 11.7 is not lower than that of HSTVL, which is enough to prove the excellence of M22.
With that being said, I agree with most of the stuff you said besides that.