Yep, still before the Leclercs. Don’t know who was in charge of where vehicles should be placed in trees, but they really liked illogical placements this update, and only one of them was fixed.
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They are planning to add the AMX30C2 but eh still pissed off about the 1A5BE
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And it raises the question of when exactly did they start planning to add it
It has been informally mentioned as WIP several times before iirc… (also when they added both B2’s)
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Ah well that answers that
But that was 8.5 years ago which raises other questions
Makes you wonder if the long-term plan was/is to have the 1A5BE be foldered under the AMX-30C2.
And that’s why it’s in that line.
Tbh i feel more and more pessimistic about the French TT and Benelux in particular.
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There’s plenty of expansion in vehicles possible. Gaijin might not add all vehicles we want, but the potential is certainly there.
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Expansion is a thing ; but im pessimistic about both that and the current state of our vehicles
Like bro i keep trying to spotlight the Sniper ATP & Radar HMD/ACM issue as it is something somewhat dear to me ; but there is not even any sort of official statment ; like a “yes” or “no”
Why doesn’t the Belgian Leopard 1 use Belgian ammunition?
From what i’ve seen ; i heard speculations that it was for balancing only to have a “fair” but solid 9.3 french Lineup.
Which imo is realy dumb ; it makes the 1A5BE pointless
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If this is really how they want to do it, it should be transitory.
Leave it as is until AMX-30c2 gets added, then (say 3-6 months later) add the ammo, and preferably the Mexas turret as well, and adjust it to 10.0 or so
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That is actually a nice counterpoint ; i just hope with time we will see more original content rather than once a year “stop gaps” being just pure copypaste
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Just a small update: @panzerknoef has submitted a bug report regarding the Leopard 1A5BE’s combat weight.
The in-game vehicle currently weighs 42.5 t, identical to the German Leopard 1A5. However, the Belgian Leopard 1A5BE did not receive the Blohm & Voss turret armour package fitted to German Leopard 1A5s. This package was only trialed on a couple prototypes ( Leopard 1A5BE Prototype (1988)) While the visual model correctly omits this armour, the weight was apparently copied over from the Krauss-Maffei Leopard 1A5.
Based on the available sources, the Belgian vehicle should weigh approximately 41.8 t, around 660 kg lighter than the current implementation.
Bug report:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/PVCqTgC30D2N
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According to Rolf Hilmes (who is seemingly the only one to explicitly mention it), the turret addon-armour weighs 660kg
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watches it being forgotten for at least a couple of years
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Thanks for the source, I’ve added it to my bug report and correct the weight difference to 660kg!
I miss the fact that the Belgian Leopard 1 doesn’t use Belgian ammunition. The same thing happens to me with the Spanish Centauro, which doesn’t use Spanish ammunition.
You miss that fact? When over half the text of the original post here mentions explicitly this and repeats it three times?
But I agree that it’s sad. More unique munitions would make the game even more interesting.
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I know it’s repeated quite often, but it’s always good to keep repeating it, since it’s the biggest problem with this tank (and some tanks from other countries). Serious problems need to be constantly reminded, because otherwise people eventually forget, and that’s what the developers want.