Baz Meshupar Overperforming on stat card

Since the Baz Meshupar was recently upgraded to be basically identical to the F-15C Msip in the American tree, it still has a noticeably higher climb rate and better turn rate than the American F-15C or even the F-15A or the F-15A Baz. The Baz Meshupar and the F-15C Msip have the exact same engine and empty/loaded weight as stated on the War thunder Wiki page, so either the Meshupar is overperforming or the F-15C Msip is underperforming. I’ve attached images from the wiki and in game for both vehicles.



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Can anyone confirm if it performs to the stat card? Or at least better than F15C?

Yea if it was just a stat card issue I’d have no problem, but if they’re seemingly identical planes and one is performing that much better, I’d like to at least know why

I don’t know much about Israeli aircraft but I think its cause the baz meshupar is a baz(f15a) upgraded to F15C standard

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I thought so too at first, the meshupar didn’t have tws or hms because it had a worse radar, so I assumed that was part of the reason it had better performance (lighter radar and avionics or something) but now it’s been upgraded to have the same radar as the american F15, so I’m pretty confused to say the least

Stat card is incorrect at most. Needs to be tested indepentedly

I mean the FM on the meshupar shouldn’t instantly make it the number 1 jet in top tier, since you probably won’t be seeing many dog fights, and the j10, j39, and jf17 exist. So personally for me i think it’s fine like this, might give me a reason to grind Israel lol

Yea I’m hoping someone has the meshupar so they can help me test in a dogfight or just test it’s climb rate

That is true, but it would be like flying an F-15A with all of the upgrades from the C, without the negatives of being heavier. It would be noticeable in your climb speed and dogfight performance.

Yup, would make getting defensive a bit easy than with a F15C and that climb would definitely give an advantage for it to launch it’s aim120s

Best case scenario, the american C is just underperforming, then it gets it’s fm buffed

Sadly, I dont have access to it too, so I cant check it myself.

Unfortunately, I’m pretty sure the F15C FM is as it should be, tho it could be a bit lighter from what I’ve heard

a bit lighter, must have more thrust and sustained turn rate

Do you have an sources for that? And if so, has anyone done any bug reports on it?

I do remember there was a bug report about the weight but they said the extra weight was from the oil, pilot and some other stuff, not sure if that’s what he’s talking about though. And for the thrust there was also a report but I can’t remember exactly what their response was to it

If that’s the case we should expect for the F15C to keep this FM.