Battle Rating changes for January 2024 (post feedback)

honestly (and at great risk for the next BR change) Im surprised they haven’t uptiered the Ki-43-III Otsu. Its still at 4.0 despite being nearly as fast as the A6M5, and out turns all the zeros, while still getting two 20mms.

but yeah, as long as people keep trying to turn fight them in their Bf109s and P-51s, Zeros will keep going up in BR due to being literally fed kills.

Its stupid, People have (mostly) learned to not turn fight with Spitfires, so the Spits all have generally stayed pretty consistent in BR for years, but they are somehow incapable of learning to not turn with Zeros for some reason.

which is why for example the Spitfire F MK IX is sitting down at 4.3 despite being significantly faster than all the Zeros in both a climb and a dive, and a roll, while only losing out a little bit on turn rates to the Zero.

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I hadn’t thought about the M60AMBT. As far as I can tell, the only 120mm round which they could use to reduce how ridiculous its firepower is is M829, but there might have been an earlier round with inferior performance, which should replace the AMBT’s KE-W pronto.

Please tell me how to fight against OBJ279, they can barely penetrate OBJ279 side armor.

F4EJ ADTW is the worst pre in this game now.

First of all, don’t use 57mm APDS. Also the turret traverse on the Pvkv IV is absolute shite. Overall the Pvkv III is far more capable so it makes sense for it to be a higher BR

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So what exactly am I supposed to do with AMX-50 (TO90/930) with a measly 200mm pen WW2 era shell at BR 8.0 ? This tank should be 7.0 maximum. Pathetic Gaijin.

He’s just saying to change it to the real tank (M1A1 KVT)

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It’s the whole process that eludes me. When a new vehicle is introduced, Gaijin have to make an informed guess at the BR. Within 12 months or so, there will be enough data gathered to correct the BR, maybe even twice, and the BR should then be frozen. The only things possibly affecting it in future would be a change to flight model, weaponry, or the introduction of another vehicle which somehow affects the K:D etc. and that’s probably a sign that the BR of this new vehicle needs adjusted.

eh there are meta shifts and stuff, maybe changes to various rounds, armour models, historical accuracy changes to vehicles that can make them perform better or worse compared to previously that can result in BR changes being required.

but none of that has happened around the BR range of the Zeros in years really, but US and german planes keep going down while Japanese planes especially keep going up.

It’s really simple, but most players shoud do the same otherwise it won’t work. Let me explain you how to do :
1 - Place your vehicle at the most visible spot on the map
2 - Wait for destruction (this should take something like 5-15 seconds if opponents are not blind)
3 - Disconnect from WT and play something else (GTA, Mariokart or whatever you have on your PC/Playstation/smartphone etc.
4 - Make sure you do this at least once a day until next BR changes
Then your vehicle’s statistics will be so bad that it will be moved to a lower BR.
Et voilà

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Oh. Yeah. While I’m asking for more BR/Capability changes for vehicles…

Type 87 RCV (Prototype): 7.7 > 7.3

Reasoning

It’s stabilized, sure, but it’s a huge, paper-thin-armored vehicle with a max pen worthy of tier 1 Japan. It doesn’t deserve 7.7, a slot above things like the M47 Patton and Ho-Ri Prod.

F-4EJ Phantom II/ADTW: 11.0 > 11.0, add AIM-9L

Reasoning

Hardwing (No agile eagle slats) Phantom chassis sporting 9Ps (Seriously? The best IR missiles this thing has are rear-aspects?) at 11.0. Could probably stand to get AIM-7E2 (DF) sparrows at well, if its radar wasn’t almost completely useless.

F-4EJ Kai Phantom II: 11.7 > 12.0, add AAM-3

Reasoning

Hardwing Phantom chassis, with only 9Ls and 7Fs at 11.7. It carried the AAM-3 in real life, and it’ll still see top-tier anyways even with the increase to 12.7, so to hell with it. Make it a dangerous brick, at least…

A6M5 Ko: 5.3 > 5.0

Reasoning

Who in God’s name thought this thing should see the P-51H? Seriously?

…While we’re at it, a good bit of BR reworks for Japanese props would be nice, too. The later Ki-84s and almost all of the N1Ks are currently in quite the poor state…

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They also need to consider Type 87 RCV. It is sitting at the same BR: 9.0 with the VBC (PT2) which has the same gun, but has thermals, stabilizer, more elevation and Laser Rangefinder with the LWS on it.

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That’s totally fair, and I doubt myself on removing the 9Ms. My concern is that compared to other 12.0s, it would far outclass any of them. The F-15A versus F-16A ADF is what I believe to be somewhat fairer with 9Ms removed. 12.0 would also be the same BR as the F-14A in this case, where the F-15 is obviously a superior aircraft. The F-14B in comparison would have more countermeasures and ARHs, albeit not very useful ones, at the exchange of far inferior flight performance. Both F-14s could also receive a slight reduction in engine heat output. The fact is, the AIM-9M is too powerful against 11.3s, and that’s also what I wish to mitigate. There are some aircraft like the Harrier where the AIM-9M is added to compensate for flight performance or lack of SARH at top tier, but in the case of the F-15, the only thing it really lacks is SARH quality when compared only to the Su-27. This is why I still want it to be a lower BR than the 27. Raising the cap to 13.3 would be the real solution, but that’s not going to happen.

Not with that airframe it’s not

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The 9.0 RCV needs to be 8.3 frankly. Give it a lineup with the Type 74C/STB/Type 87 again.

The RCV(P) should be 7.3 to make a nice lineup with all the other 7.3s japan now has

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I never comment, but this is so absurd I just have to. You’re the only person arguing the T20 should be 6.3, this forum is filled with your comments about it. What did the T20 do for you to hate it so much? It’s just a very slightly better Sherman there’s no reason for it to be up there with the Pershings. The only comment you have that people agreed with was that the APCR wouldn’t matter which is true because the 76mm APCR is much worse than its real life counterpart. In real life its documented to be able to pen flat armor at 208mm which is a far cry of what it can do in the game. The Panther has 30% more penetration than a T20. The Panther has 80% more frontal armor than a T20, almost double. Why should the T20 have a higher battle rating than it? Perhaps you think the T20 is better at flanking. Well sorry to burst your bubble, but the T20 is only 25% faster you see them flanking because that’s all the tank can do. Almost no one plays the tank because of this. All that’s out there to play it are the people that like to play tanks they know suck and crush their enemies with them because they are highly skilled and think its funny. That was already happening before the nerf. Now only the best of the best are going to be playing this tank and i’m not going to be surprised when this tank goes to 6.7 next. We need to start placing tanks in the battle ratings that reflect their statistics and not who plays them. When that band aid is ripped off it’ll finally solve the skill issues causing all this mess. Everyone knows France sucks no one ever complains about them being over powered so only people willing to try hard and do well to play the tanks plays them, so now we’re seeing France only consisting of more and more skilled players as France gets nerfed into the ground again and again in a cycle that won’t end until the beforehand mentioned band aid is finally ripped off and the game eventually heals into a much better game.

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ROC M60A3 TTS never got the ERA. it should obviously get m774 though, since they did use that.

they’re also planning to get a 1000 horsepower engine upgrade by RENK

More likely that no HMD is the reason for the lower BR. Note that all 12.7s except for the Mirage 4000 have HMD.

Mirage 4000 likely just got moved up because it’s french.

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Haven’t gotten to it yet personally, but yeah, heard it’s in a poor spot.

I’ve heard the same of the Type 89 as well…

Changes are already implemented, you sadly have to wait for another BR changes or make a suggestion on the bug report forum ( last time i was told to get there if i want to suggest a change in weaponry for plane )