Battle Rating changes for January 2024 (post feedback)

you dont have the f-15 ✅
You have little if any experience in low / mid tiers ✅
But you say you know what the F-15 FM is… because it has aim 9ms ✅
you’ve spent more $$$$ on this game than the entire G.D.P of most third world countries ✅✅✅

what else am i missing?

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F15 is low or mid tier
I know the F15 FM is good due looking others using it and checking the changes and fixes they made it to it but if that is too much of a problem i can go grind for it and compare it to the su27

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stop-the-cap-cap

Gripen i got a talisman as it was the best thing Britain had in a while
F16 i didn’t bother to talisman as that time their was nothing else to grind in that tree at that time
Harrier gr7 i spaded it before it got the 9Ms

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you know, i too now how to do brain surgery simply by watching videos of other people doing it.

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See in how much a plane pulls and turn and knowing how its low speed and high speed turning circle is not the same as brain surgery

If it some much of a problem that players with more experience then both of us say it flight model is good i can go grind for it so i can tell you that is good and compare it to the su27

Being purely second best doesn’t mean it’s unusable, but when ‘second best’ includes lacking 1.8M, lacking IOG, lacking DL, and lacking a whole 10G, then yeah it is useless.

That’s true for pretty much any radar missile, it’s not really an argument.

It’s just worse at literally everything compared to the jets going to 12.7, but ok. Doesn’t have the dogfighting performance or amount of dogfighting missiles of the Gripens, M4k, F-16C, MiG-29G, or Barak II nor does it have the BVR capabilities of the Su-27, J-11, MiG-29SMT, or MiG-29G. The only one I can understand going to 12.7 is the F-15J because of its 40G 9M’s.

The 530D was only made worse recently by an apparent stealth nerf to its long range maneuverability. The Skyflash is just an AIM-7E-2 with longer range due to the seeker, so comparing it to the AIM-7F isn’t favorable (saying the AIM-7E-2 isn’t as good as the AIM-7F isn’t really much of an argument) especially when the highest BR jet with them is 11.3. The Skyflash SuperTEMP is just a 10% faster, 25% more guidance time Skyflash (so again essentially just an AIM-7E-2) - not even mentioning that it is only on two Tornadoes that are each only 11.3.

The ER is the best sarh but it’s still a sarh and therefore it is not the end-all be-all of the plane, especially not in the current game meta of low-alt fighting. The 7F still works perfectly fine at killing targets (bugs nonwithstanding) if you don’t try to headon joust an ER at high alt without taking any evasive actions whatsoever, which by now most people should’ve really learned not to do. It is far from being “useless”. Also the gripens have skyflashes, it’s simply that no one runs them because they are actually quite a useless missile (once the motor burns out at least).
It’s flight perf absolutely shits on the Mig29’s and su27’s, who’s only realistic chance in a prolonged dogfight is to try to get a hmd r73 and hope it doesnt get preflared, and can out-bvr the gripens, the m4k, and be on an equal footing or supassing bvr-wise the barak and f16c, not to mention it has better survivability than everything on that list except the gripens due to flare count.
I still dont see any reason why it should not be at 12.7 with the rest of them which yes, all outperform it in some ways, but it outperforms them all in others, in some cases significantly.

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All of these planes are going to 12.7 because of their dogfighting performance, in the comment you originally responded to I said “That doesn’t matter at top tier, you either have good dogfight performance or you have good BVR/long range capability - the F-15 doesn’t have any (in comparison to the jets moving up to 12.7),” which is still true. The F-15 does not have the dogfighting performance of any of the planes you mentioned, hence it shouldn’t move up because those planes were not worth moving up to 12.7 for their BVR.

That’s assuming that the R-73 can be flared at close range, which it really can’t. All the Su-27 or MiG-29 needs to do is launch one of their six possible IR missiles with their HMD and the F-15 can’t do anything to counter it besides spam flares and hope (even though the R-73’s 0.75 degree FOV wouldn’t be able to see any of them at close range). Again, the Su-27’s and MiG-29’s were going up mainly for their BVR (although the MiG-29G in terms of dogfighting as well) with the R-27ER. Even though the MiG-29’s only get two R-27ER, that’s still better than four AIM-7M’s.

Because it’s not on par with either the dogfighting-focused 12.7’s nor the BVR-focused 12.7’s.

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It still slams everything in a downtier at both, which is the main reason why planes are uptiered regardless. It absolutely should go up if everything else is. The F15 is still an extraordinarily competitive dogfighting airframe, with IRCCM missiles and some of the best sarh’s in the game. For ARB the F15 airframe is still very competitive for getting quick shots on people (which is how the majority of kills are gotten in ARB), with you only noticing this in 1v1 duels. 11.3 does not need to be seeing irccm missiles on an incredibly competitive airframe + good sarh’s, which is what this decompression is supposed to solve.
Ok, and if you flare the R73, or preflare it, you eat him alive afterwards because he has no flight performance to actually back up that launch. It’s the trade-off.
The F15 clearly has superior dogfight and longrange capability to everything at 11.3-ergo it should move up.
Keep your preflare on (which the F15 has the cms for), and he can’t realistically get a good launch unless he predicts it.

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Therefore, M60A3 TTS (CN) needs to be taken down to 8.7

And 27ER is as easily defeated despite those technological differences because of radar warning.
Of course 27ER itself is drastically inferior to 9Ms and R-73s for air RB right now as well, but why listen to the people proving that Gripen is the best top jet in WT despite "only "using 9Ms.

Being less than 1:1KD ratio with every of your aircrafts,…
When will you learn basics?

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#1 im not 1.1 kd with every plane, so keep on lying
#2 i dont give a flying F about K/D in this unbalanced game fighting off against people who literally Golden Eagle every plane that comes out while you are fighting them stock with either useless missile or IR Flres when they are locking on to you with Radar missiles fired at you from a HMD interface.
#3 i fly planes in ground RB Where im being shot at by pantsirs, flakrads and what ever else Proximity shell firing IFVs gaijin decides to add while you just spam air RB and you barely play ground.
#4 from your vehicles most well played it looks like you stopped playing ground RB 7 years ago

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the AIM 7M ARE BUGGED. 50% of the time they LITERALLY FLY OFF INTO NOTHING HIT THE GROUND OR JUST Miss, because the radar lock box doesn’t want to actually stay over the plane.

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The new 11.7 max BR rotation in Sim needs to be looked at, We had Italy, Germany and Japan and USSR vs US, Britain, France and Sweden.

Almost all of those nations had 11.7’s, while Italy has a Harrier option and Japan has the EJ Kai. The nation pairings should be balanced out a little better in for this bracket, we were getting stomped on by F-14’s and Tornado F’s

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If that is the case than how is the F-16C also 12.7? It’s in the same tree afterall?

And why is it that all 12.7 except for 1 have HMD?

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And yet he is still decent at the game, unlike you. You are trash.

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And we should the word of someone who is trash at the game over his word because?

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