they werent raised because their wr’s are fucked by virtue of being usually matched with the US
It’s quite obvious they all should’ve gone up with the rest
The sparrows are basically 2nd best and are perfectly viable, and the greater quantity of them is an advantage of its own against anything but the flanker.
The thrust to weight ratio on the Eagles is godly, and its huge supply of countermeasures is tremendously useful in air RB. It kicks the stuffing out of the phantoms that it clubs at 12.3 as well as the migs that don’t even have pulse doppler. It belongs with its peers at 12.7
That’s assuming the AIM-7M is even viable, it isn’t. That’s why the R-27ER being in game is a problem as right now whether or not you can use a radar missile at top tier is the yes/no question “is it the R-27ER?”
That doesn’t matter at top tier, you either have good dogfight performance or you have good BVR/long range capability - the F-15 doesn’t have any (in comparison to the jets moving up to 12.7).
That’s true, but that alone isn’t going to be enough to do well.
Imo no phantom should be higher than 11.0, so honestly yeah I agree
Other planes either get more useful missiles (more than just four) and/or better dogfight performance, though.
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FINALLY. SOMEONE. POINTS. THIS.
Don’t waste your time arguing with him, at this point i’m sure that it’s a troll.
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Just played two 11.0 GR games in a row in a 10.0 lineup … Both with Japan.
I thought the cap for 10.0 was 10.7, based on the new sheet. Same as the 9.7 line, caped in 10.3 …
Am I wrong ?
aim7F is still a perfectly fine missile.
Just because it’s 2nd best doesnt automatically make it useless. Just stay low and fire them at people higher than you at like less than 10km, free kills if they dont know how to evade it in a headon.
There is absolutely no justification for the F15’s to be at 12.3 given the overall airframe+kit combo, especially not something like the F15J now that AAM-3’s are better modeled now.
If you want a truly unviable SARH missile try using one of the skyflash or 530D planes.
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yes, you are. that list was for sim battle brackets only.
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Why are the F-15s not moving up alongside the other 12.3s?
It makes absolutely no sense that the F-16C, Barak II and the Gripens get moved to 12.7, but the F-15s stay at 12.3.
Also, what’s the deal with the Falcon going up to 8.3? It doesn’t have a radar or targetting computer/lead indicator, the only thing it has going for it is the 25% APDS belt. At this rate just get rid of that belt and bring it back down as there is no point to bring the Falcon as a SPAA when the ZA-35 and Chieftain Marksman both are 8.3 as well
beecause the f15 is dogshit
Sure thing bud ( you are delusional)
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ok you have fun getting blown our of the sky by planes with HMD
HMD matter as much as you say
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ok i know how 9ms work i know how good its flight model is
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HMD on a non-thrust vectoring 30G missile is certainly very nice to have and does give you an advantage, but it’s not like you instantly get clapped without it.
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All I know is… after playing F-16C, there’s NO WAY on Earth I will ever play a plane at Top Tier without HMD. It is simply an enormous downgrade.
HMD is vital for high maneuverability dogfights, specially when your enemies have both HMD and 40G thrust-vectored missiles, which makes said planes capable of pretty much killing with ease planes at any point within their FoV. Even worse when said plane has super-maneuverability.
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You see how i know you’re lying, is you only have 4 planes in the entire U.S Tech tree, which means… you literally either botted your way to the top. You are a liar. You dont even have enough RP gained with the F4S to test fly the F-15.
My guy i have the F16c with 9ms the gr with 9ms and the gripen with 9ms
the f16 isnt the f-15. their flight models are not the same.
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i know that and F15 flight is still good
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