From the bottom of my heart, thank you Gaijin!
Thank you so much for destroying another French BR! I was so scared when I realized I could have a full 7.7 BR, but fortunately you moved up the char 25t to 8.0. I am so relieved now!
But you still have much to do : just have a look at 8.3 and 8.7. I think it’s not appropriate for the French TT to have so many vehicles in the same BR. Hope you can do something to fix this problem in the future.
When this will be done, I have a great idea (I always have great ideas, don’t hesitate to call me if you lack inspiration). I am sure it would be very effective to reduce ammunition of French vehicles (1 or 2 shells seem to be clearly enough). If some players are still interested in grinding French TT despite your best efforts, I suggest to keep turrets but suppress cannons. What do you think? Isn’t it a seductive idea?
Best regards
It’s a little late, I know, but I’d like to make the suggestion of giving the MiG-29 9-13 and 9-12A R-73s and moving them up to 12.3, as well as the Yak-141. I would also like something similar to happen to the early F-16s. The F-14A could receive AIM-9Ls and be moved to 12.0, while the F-14B is moved to 12.3. As they are now, these aircraft still outperform anything even one step below them, especially the F-16s and MiG-29s. Fighting large numbers of F-16s while using something like a MiG-21bis, MiG-23M or F-4E is just not realistically winnable. Even aircraft like the JA37 struggle due to the extreme maneuverability of these aircraft, essentially removing the only real advantage the JA37 has over its opponent in uptiers. I would also like to see the removal of AIM-9Ms from the F-15A, and the F-15J moved to 12.7 due to AAM-3s and future modifications of the aircraft (which I believe to be the true reason behind some of these BR changes.) The Mirage 2000C-S5 and S4 should also be moved to 12.0, with the 2000D-R1 moved to 11.7.
I believe that this decompression to 12.7 can be used for even more good that it already has. Please consider in future updates. I just want to see these borderline unfair aircraft out of brackets they completely dominate in without real competition apart from themselves.
List of desired BR changes (Realistic Battles):
F-14A: 12.0
F-14B: 12.3
MiG-29A (USSR+GER): 12.3
Yak-141: 12.3
Mirage 2000C-S(4/5): 12.0
Mirage 2000D-R1: 11.7
F-16A(All): 12.3
F-15J: 12.7
List of desired other changes:
F-15A AIM-9M: Removed
F-14A AIM-9L: Added
MiG-29A (All): R-73 added, R-27ER/ER1 removed*
Yak-141: R-73 added
*What I believe could be a viable solution to the imbalance between F-16 and MiG-29 caused by same BR but MiG being buffed. Would also create more historical loadout options for the early 29s in particular.
Perfect
Because its not a premium. However no harm in trying to get its BR lower.
Please could I ask Gaijins reasoning for uptiering many of the A6M Zeros, including the A6M5 ko this patch?
Every BR change that includes them has many, many players submitting feedback very heavily against it, yet they never get reconsidered.
We dont have access to Gaijins internal statistics for these vehicles, but I know that based on at least my personal experience, the performance of especially the A6M5 series is just not enough for even 5.0, let alone the 5.3 BR they are being put at.
So I would really like to hear and understand what Gaijins reasoning for the changes.
Yeah they were comparable with the M1128’s M900 (522mm at 10m) and the 2S25M’s 3BM46 (532mm at 10m). Why did the 2S25M need the 3BM60 (580mm at 10m)? Now the 2S25M gets a round literally 68mm of pen more than the next best round, why did they need it?
if the F-15A gets it’s 9M’s removed it better be going to 11.7 or 12.0 lol
We now have 8 planes that are 5.0 lol
5 Zeros and 3 Raidens
- A6M3 Mod.22 Ko
- A6m5
- A6M5 Hei
- A6M6c
- A7M1 (NK9H)
- J2M4 Kai
- J2M2
- J2M5
At this point, just make all the lower Br Ki’s and A6M2s 5.0 since they still win in dog fights :/
honestly (and at great risk for the next BR change) Im surprised they haven’t uptiered the Ki-43-III Otsu. Its still at 4.0 despite being nearly as fast as the A6M5, and out turns all the zeros, while still getting two 20mms.
but yeah, as long as people keep trying to turn fight them in their Bf109s and P-51s, Zeros will keep going up in BR due to being literally fed kills.
Its stupid, People have (mostly) learned to not turn fight with Spitfires, so the Spits all have generally stayed pretty consistent in BR for years, but they are somehow incapable of learning to not turn with Zeros for some reason.
which is why for example the Spitfire F MK IX is sitting down at 4.3 despite being significantly faster than all the Zeros in both a climb and a dive, and a roll, while only losing out a little bit on turn rates to the Zero.
I hadn’t thought about the M60AMBT. As far as I can tell, the only 120mm round which they could use to reduce how ridiculous its firepower is is M829, but there might have been an earlier round with inferior performance, which should replace the AMBT’s KE-W pronto.
Please tell me how to fight against OBJ279, they can barely penetrate OBJ279 side armor.
F4EJ ADTW is the worst pre in this game now.
First of all, don’t use 57mm APDS. Also the turret traverse on the Pvkv IV is absolute shite. Overall the Pvkv III is far more capable so it makes sense for it to be a higher BR
So what exactly am I supposed to do with AMX-50 (TO90/930) with a measly 200mm pen WW2 era shell at BR 8.0 ? This tank should be 7.0 maximum. Pathetic Gaijin.
He’s just saying to change it to the real tank (M1A1 KVT)
It’s the whole process that eludes me. When a new vehicle is introduced, Gaijin have to make an informed guess at the BR. Within 12 months or so, there will be enough data gathered to correct the BR, maybe even twice, and the BR should then be frozen. The only things possibly affecting it in future would be a change to flight model, weaponry, or the introduction of another vehicle which somehow affects the K:D etc. and that’s probably a sign that the BR of this new vehicle needs adjusted.
eh there are meta shifts and stuff, maybe changes to various rounds, armour models, historical accuracy changes to vehicles that can make them perform better or worse compared to previously that can result in BR changes being required.
but none of that has happened around the BR range of the Zeros in years really, but US and german planes keep going down while Japanese planes especially keep going up.
It’s really simple, but most players shoud do the same otherwise it won’t work. Let me explain you how to do :
1 - Place your vehicle at the most visible spot on the map
2 - Wait for destruction (this should take something like 5-15 seconds if opponents are not blind)
3 - Disconnect from WT and play something else (GTA, Mariokart or whatever you have on your PC/Playstation/smartphone etc.
4 - Make sure you do this at least once a day until next BR changes
Then your vehicle’s statistics will be so bad that it will be moved to a lower BR.
Et voilà
Oh. Yeah. While I’m asking for more BR/Capability changes for vehicles…
Type 87 RCV (Prototype): 7.7 > 7.3
Reasoning
It’s stabilized, sure, but it’s a huge, paper-thin-armored vehicle with a max pen worthy of tier 1 Japan. It doesn’t deserve 7.7, a slot above things like the M47 Patton and Ho-Ri Prod.
F-4EJ Phantom II/ADTW: 11.0 > 11.0, add AIM-9L
Reasoning
Hardwing (No agile eagle slats) Phantom chassis sporting 9Ps (Seriously? The best IR missiles this thing has are rear-aspects?) at 11.0. Could probably stand to get AIM-7E2 (DF) sparrows at well, if its radar wasn’t almost completely useless.
F-4EJ Kai Phantom II: 11.7 > 12.0, add AAM-3
Reasoning
Hardwing Phantom chassis, with only 9Ls and 7Fs at 11.7. It carried the AAM-3 in real life, and it’ll still see top-tier anyways even with the increase to 12.7, so to hell with it. Make it a dangerous brick, at least…
A6M5 Ko: 5.3 > 5.0
Reasoning
Who in God’s name thought this thing should see the P-51H? Seriously?
…While we’re at it, a good bit of BR reworks for Japanese props would be nice, too. The later Ki-84s and almost all of the N1Ks are currently in quite the poor state…
They also need to consider Type 87 RCV. It is sitting at the same BR: 9.0 with the VBC (PT2) which has the same gun, but has thermals, stabilizer, more elevation and Laser Rangefinder with the LWS on it.