Well, let’s talk a bit about the F-4 EJ and the F-4 EJ ADTW. comparing to the American F-4E (wich seats at same BR) we can see some disadvantages:
there’s no agile eagle, what reduces drastically the dogfight capability.
there’s no AIM-7E-2.
there isn’t any kind of guided armament for CAS.
even the dumb bombs variety is worse, there’s only 500lb and 750lb bombs.
Don’t you guys think this plane deserves a lower br? Even a 0.3 reduction could make a big difference 10.7 will avoid the 12.0 br braket where this plane really suffers.
But First, you should get that:
Good players =/= All players
So if vehicles of minor nations that not many players play, but only good players play because they know how to use that nation, it shouldn’t be a reason for you to just uptiers that vehicle.
You can’t justify the Saggitario II just going at the same br of the Ariete. It’s literally worse copy.
Those planes shouldn’t even be there, agains all the missile spams. But because these are in the end not bad vehicles plus the fact that only very skilled people play them, makes them get a higher efficiency than better vehicles played by more average players.
It would be needed to reconsider why some nations aren’t very new players friendly but got very high win-rates. And it shouldn’t be just a: “vehicle’s win-rate is good, so uptier it, or nerf it”, because in this way because in this way there will be less and less players interested in trying new minor nations thus the vehicles would just get nerfed because only played by good players.
I mean - the F-15 is still the only supersonic jet with missiles as good as 9Ms. If everything else is moving to 12.7 I don’t understand why the Eagle isn’t. Lack of HMD isn’t a big enough disadvantage to justify it being a lower BR.
AMX13 FL11 at 4.3
The lone french tank at 4.3, so you either don’t use it because it would increase a 3.7 lineup to face 5.3 tanks or again, you don’t use it because it’s worse than the EBR at 5.3.
The AMX13 FL11 is a worse Chaffee, how the hell is it almost an entire BR higher? are you for real? Put it at 3.7 where it at least can get some use as a F2P alternative to the objectively superior AMX-13-M24.
And that is still a bad idea regardless. Honestly we should just do what capncruncher said and purposefully drag down the efficiency rating to prove a point. Even if the devs miss the point, at least the vehicle gets fixed.
WHY is the AGS getting uptiered to 11.0 getting the M833 only barely justifies it getting uptiered to 10.7, with the current situation 90% of the vehicles that the AGS is going to fight has at least 200mm penetration difference. The AGS at 10.3 is already perfect. if you want to make it 11.0 atleast give it a 400mil pen shell
No please do, an ULTRA rare MBT, not a light tank. which was the reward for an event almost 4 years ago.
I think if i’ve seen two in battle, in all that time, it would not be far from the truth.
But sure uptier it, but i care more about a vehicle which is readily available, then some rare event vehicle.
I am tired of pointing out in these topics for months and sometimes years certain BR disparities for absolutely identical planes which are still not resolved, especially for arcade battles (does anyone remember they exist?). There is no reason that two identical vehicles don’t have the same BR in two different nations in this game mode:
French F-100D and chinese F-100A BR 9.7 → 9.3 : like the american one which is better in every way.
American, italian and french F-84F BR 9.0 → 8.7 : like the israeli and german ones which are identical.Terrible flight performance for a 9.0 aircraft.
And this BR changes brings a new inconsistency in realistic battles : the french B-26C is now BR 4.7 and the american B-26B BR 4.3. Exact same aircrafts once again…
And I probably didn’t mention all of them sadly… Could you please report these persistant issues to the devs ?
I can’t wait for you to revert the French changes when you realize how gimped you just made some of them.
God some of these BR changes are retarded. Most of the French vehicles around 7.0-8.0 lack HEAT and APFSDS where their national counterparts generally all have them.
They won’t.
They give a **** about minor countries(especially French and Britian)
What they are doing is to make these vehicles unplayable to satisfy premium noobs .
AGS at 11.0 is probably the worst thing this BR change or the A6M5 Ko going up AGAIN is probably worse. But the AGS has G1 thermals and the worst gun and ammo at 11.0 now ain’t no reason not to give it M900 now that its at 11.0
AGS
Regardels of the round it has only medicre optics with Gen 1 thermals which is big shotcoming in top tier, where a lot a vehicles has Gen 3 and would be able to detect AGS way sooner then ather way around, AGS would struggle.
They say, you can’t kill what you can’t see…
Type 81c
I find Interesting that this vehicle without radar, without Thermal sight, on a truck chassis, sits even higher thet the 2S6 with radar, Gen3 sights, decent overload missiles, 2(4)x30mm guns and tracked chasiss.