F-5E absolutely should go to 11.0, the entire plane is just an easy mode at 10.7 while planes like F-4EJ can’t justify their 11.0 (No ground options, no slats and no dogfight sparrows)
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I think he used TAM 2 C because it sits at the exact same BR in both modes. please name another tracked light tank at that BR?
And a whopping 2 more degrees of depression, woot. i prefer Rooikat 105 with 10 degrees myself.
Blame Russian designers, they had same mobility in 2S25 but lowered it, a design choice!!!
And all other nations around its BR will suffer with these buffs, very few tanks can take a hit from these munitions.
I don’t see how the batchat is 8.0 worthy, especially comparing it to another notable light tank at 8.0 (The 906) how is this even close? Unstabilized, much more pen on APCBC, access to HEATFS to deal with what APCBC can’t, better power to weight, and faster forwards and in reverse. Even down to the internals, the Breach on the batchat is massive with the revolving drum-style autoloader shots to the hull that completely miss the turret crew can still cripple it. In exchange, the bat gets… more HE filler for a round with no hope of penning any 8.0-8.7 Russian mbt frontally (906 does NOT have this issue and butters everything with HEATFS if need be, saying it’s not supposed to fight frontally when it’s contemporaries easily can is a moot point) an extra degree of gun depression, better turret traverse, and 4 smoke grenades. We get that French 7.7 is way overtuned, but why nerf the bat and not the Lorraine if anything, it’s better overall minus scouting. Also not sure what the AMX TO90 with the same gun is supposed to do at 8.0 when it’s as fat as a house (Good luck!)
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Should I tell you about the M60 AMBT that has been sitting at or below 10.0 for years now with a similar round?
Okay, i know in my other post i said the lack of APCR was another downside of the T20 getting downtiered. But that didnt mean me or the rest of the community think its a magic fix all for it getting uptiered.
There are APHE shells in 6.0 that can pen more than what the APCR can, without having to deal with terrible sloped performance and come with one shot capability. The M93 will literally be unable to pen any of its contemporaries.
For Gods sake just leave this tank at 6.0
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Just wanna brag about something small some people may care a bit about.
And that is the Type 87 RCV sitting at 9.0 same as the Italien VBC (PT2).
The problem is that the VBC has LWS/LR, TVD and a two-plane gun tabilizer at a 9.0 br.
The type 87 RCV get’s nothing like this, And I belive that is kinda unfair when it comes to gameplay.
It would be nice if the br would go doen for the Type 87 RCV or to add the extra components that the VBC has.
Ty for reading my feedback.
It’s funny how they keep increasing french vehicle BRs regardless of the vehicle rather than taking proper balancing measures.
AML-90 isn’t a 7.7 material light vehicle, and batchat should not have to face MBTs like that. Hells, if the pattern continues, anything french past mid-tier is going to face T90Ms, Leo 2A6s and such if it depended on these “esteemed” devs. They just continue going up and up regardless of the situation.
It would be nice to have the option to move the expert crew training to a new crew slot when a vehicle BR changes. Many times moving a vehicle BR results in losing SL and crew experience because another vehicle in the new BR range already occupies the same slot.
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Well, let’s talk a bit about the F-4 EJ and the F-4 EJ ADTW. comparing to the American F-4E (wich seats at same BR) we can see some disadvantages:
- there’s no agile eagle, what reduces drastically the dogfight capability.
- there’s no AIM-7E-2.
- there isn’t any kind of guided armament for CAS.
- even the dumb bombs variety is worse, there’s only 500lb and 750lb bombs.
Don’t you guys think this plane deserves a lower br? Even a 0.3 reduction could make a big difference 10.7 will avoid the 12.0 br braket where this plane really suffers.
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But First, you should get that:
Good players =/= All players
So if vehicles of minor nations that not many players play, but only good players play because they know how to use that nation, it shouldn’t be a reason for you to just uptiers that vehicle.
You can’t justify the Saggitario II just going at the same br of the Ariete. It’s literally worse copy.
Those planes shouldn’t even be there, agains all the missile spams. But because these are in the end not bad vehicles plus the fact that only very skilled people play them, makes them get a higher efficiency than better vehicles played by more average players.
It would be needed to reconsider why some nations aren’t very new players friendly but got very high win-rates. And it shouldn’t be just a: “vehicle’s win-rate is good, so uptier it, or nerf it”, because in this way because in this way there will be less and less players interested in trying new minor nations thus the vehicles would just get nerfed because only played by good players.
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I mean - the F-15 is still the only supersonic jet with missiles as good as 9Ms. If everything else is moving to 12.7 I don’t understand why the Eagle isn’t. Lack of HMD isn’t a big enough disadvantage to justify it being a lower BR.
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AMX13 FL11 at 4.3
The lone french tank at 4.3, so you either don’t use it because it would increase a 3.7 lineup to face 5.3 tanks or again, you don’t use it because it’s worse than the EBR at 5.3.
The AMX13 FL11 is a worse Chaffee, how the hell is it almost an entire BR higher? are you for real? Put it at 3.7 where it at least can get some use as a F2P alternative to the objectively superior AMX-13-M24.
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I see people saying it has less 9Ms then the F16c so thats why but they pretend that the sparows it carries are useless
what about giving the bmd4 it’s atgm back (non-tandem) with unlimited capacity and yeeting it at 10.0?
Oh and I forgot to add something:
Why is the T-28 1938 going to 1.7? The old T-28 is already at 1.7 and has a better gun. Keep it at 1.3 where it belongs.
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And that is still a bad idea regardless. Honestly we should just do what capncruncher said and purposefully drag down the efficiency rating to prove a point. Even if the devs miss the point, at least the vehicle gets fixed.
Char-25t in 8.0, very big joke. Next change of Br, it will go to 9.0
And why is the French AML-90 in 7.7 while the Israeli is in 7.0?
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WHY is the AGS getting uptiered to 11.0 getting the M833 only barely justifies it getting uptiered to 10.7, with the current situation 90% of the vehicles that the AGS is going to fight has at least 200mm penetration difference. The AGS at 10.3 is already perfect. if you want to make it 11.0 atleast give it a 400mil pen shell
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No please do, an ULTRA rare MBT, not a light tank. which was the reward for an event almost 4 years ago.
I think if i’ve seen two in battle, in all that time, it would not be far from the truth.
But sure uptier it, but i care more about a vehicle which is readily available, then some rare event vehicle.