I completely agree with this change, please consider this Gaijin.
Strelas performance is far superior to other IR-based AAs, beside type 81.
Vehicle that performs objectively better in its role than its contemporaries gets uptiered, wheres problem with that?
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Bro watch Bosvark get moved to 6.3. Skink to 5.7. Honestly I have no idea what Brits could get to fill in the 5.3-now 8.3 void.
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My 2 cents, not that it will make any impact. But excuse me…how on earth is the Char25T going to 8.0!!! But the Somua stays at 7.7, the char has no right facing 9.0 tanks.
Why do you constantly nerf the minority of French players into the ground I’m not even a France main, well I was until you butcherd the BRs of France. The tank was fine at 7.0/7.3, Even though I loved it at 6.7 haha.
Further more the Lorraine 70 has a higher pen shell fast reload and is faster, yet it stays at 7.7…
Stop Balancing the game like this. Actually look at what it faces in uptiers and the armour it faces, as we all know majority of games are never at your BR.
Maybe we wouldn’t need to make such hasty BR changes if you brought in a 0.7 +/- Br system especially in later BR brackets past 8.0. Your servers are packed!!! Far more than when I started 10+ yrs ago
Also there is no need for a prop to vs Radar SPAA. They should all be 8.0 br min.
This comment underlines the whole idea of why BR change is more harm than good.
There is a whole line of 5.3 for the UK and it’s a fair one and the Skink is part of it ,move that to 5.7 and the whole 5.3 line up loses it’s SPAA. Or your whole 5.3 line up now has to play 5.7 to .6.7.
Just a small change = Big repercussions.
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whats funny is half the french things that dont have an autoloader should fire way faster regardless because of the power of a loading tray, keep a round ready on tray and all you have to do is open breach, eject, slide tray over, push in, shut breach, max 6s, then get another shell onto the tray, but have a non tray reload take the longer reloads gaijin added to them
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F-5C should have its flares removed, and go to 9.7
It would be a perfect buddy for the T-2 there.
Im sorry what? F-5C at 9.7?
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Yes, with no flares.
Otherwise, it gets two AIM-9Es, while the faster Mitsubishi T-2 gets the better AIM-9Js.
Of course, this is assuming they’d fix the absolutely nutty DM/FM/heat generation issues.
me watching my missile miss the f5c as its heat sig full heat is less then a harrier
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Meanwhile the M60 AMBT has been at that BR with a similar roubd for years.
F-5C, if anything, should go up to 10.7 and F-5E to 11.0.
It has absolutely cracked plane perfomance for dogfighting.
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I disagree with the ‘all F-104Gs should have come down’. The German F-104G has flares while the Chinese one does not, which makes the German one a lot better than it already.
Which is weird, given I tend to get behind them surprisingly often
The only caveat being that missiles tend to be a near non-option if they have even the slightest hint of a braincell and pop flares, given those seem to have 2x its heat sig on full afterburn…
I think we all want an up br to 12.0 or 12.3 for top tier tanks please.
I also want to point out that the HSTV-L should either get its ammo fixed and get the hevt shell OR lower it’s br
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i play the spruts but the vertican targeting speed is just a crime that is NOT WORTH playing the Sprut
In terms of actual suggestion…
EJ Kai gets AAM-3s, keep as-is BR-wise
Reasoning? It’s a non-agile-eagle phantom chassis with 9Ls and 7Fs stuck at 11.7, while the Kurnass 2000 with those slats at 11.3 gets to carry six Python 3s. I do believe the EJ Kai deserves a little something, especially considering it carried those missiles in reality…
I wanna begin with something that I talked with a lot of people and not a single soul denied my argument.
Decompress Ground vehicles up to 12.3 and or, make different BRs for CAS for air modes and ground modes
Why?
Aircraft can play against aircraft
Tanks don’t have the option to fight only tanks, its simple as that
Some aircraft have their BR to be too OP in Air vs Air but useless in Air vs Ground, and the other way around, some aircraft will be too OP against ground units but its BR won’t go up because it would make it unbalanced or weak in aircraft mode, SPLIT IT!
on BR/balancing changes, I will be mostly talking about Top tier as I only played this recently and wouldn’t be fair talking about other vehicles that I haven’t played in recent time
To begin with ground forces:
US: M1a2 SEP V2 would benefit from M829A3
Germany: Why is Kugel still at 7.0?
Lower Rolands [German and American] to 10.0 as equal as French Roland 10.0
After Sky Guardians and forward updates, their missile drag and slow response severely weakened the missile and while lacking range it can’t defend itself against some attackers that simply outrange it and some can simply ignore the missile with a small effortless turn
USSR/Russia
2s38 should go up to 10.3 or 10.7, a highly capable vehicle with a price that gives everything someone want, a jack of all trades
2S6 to 11.0 as a highly capable Anti-air and can defend and even go offensive against ground units
T-72AV Turms to 10.3
BMP-2M to 10.3
UK: Lower stormer to 10.0 to match its performance or restore the starstreak to how it was before and analyze the appropriate BR for it as it goes.
Japan: M735 still with faulty-bug-report nerf applied on Type 16 (and Xm-1), you don’t want your premium to not be desired right? but being serious, how has the faulty bug report not been reverted after all this time?
Italy: Otomatic 11.0 or faster reload/shell rack replenish to be on par with other top tier missile SPAA systems
Ariete MBTs to 11.0/11.3 or stay at this BR while other top tier competitors rise to 12.0-12.3 as they are not on the same level of performance, armor, etc
France: lower Leclerc and Leclerc S2 to 11.3, early Leclerc lack Commander thermal vision unlike competitors
Helicopter: AH-1Z lacks AGM-114K and has AGM-114B since its debut
Aircrafts
US: F-15A should go up to 12.7, consider giving it HMD
F-111A should receive AIM-9D or AIM9J
F-5E to 11.0, add AIM9Ls
USSR/Russia: Remove MiG-29 and Yak-141 R-27ERs and add R-73s
Japan: F-15J, same as other F-15s, up to 12.7
Italy: Sagi stays at 9.0
France: Mirage 2000C-S4/S5: Move Matra Magic 2 module from rank 4 to rank 1 or 2 as vehicle is highly ineffective at BR without proper missiles
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The improvement in armor is only noticeable specifically on the mantlet. The hull front still isn’t enough to stop something of the likes of the US 76 mm, and the turret cheeks near the mantlet are a still a weakspot on the turret.
The 90 mm is powerful, but the stabilizer and mobility of the T20 more than make up for it. On a straight line, in a good road, it takes the longer for the T25 to reach 45 km/h (26 seconds) than the T20 to reach its top speed of 56 km/h (25 seconds). It takes 11 seconds for the T20 to reach 40 km/h, and 21 seconds for the T25 to do the same.´
The hp/ton goes from 17.78 to 13.70. It takes 9 seconds for the M36 to reach 40 km/h compared to 14 seconds on the M36B2.
M82 is still the main round and the high acceleration allows the M36 to not switch rounds as often. HEAT-FS is only really useful in frontal engagements which is the kind of engagement that should be avoided in the first place with an M36. The roof can only protect against either rifle caliber AP rounds or smaller HE rounds, and that’s assuming that the rounds don’t hit on the big hole that exists on the roof. More powerful AP rounds just go through, and more powerful HE rounds bypass the armor via overpressure, which the M36B2 is still vulnerable to.
Without ready rack the reload rate of the Fireflies receives a 1.5× multiplier, making it 8.82 seconds with a fully maxed out loader. The Sherman VC with track armor is also the Sherman with the worst hp/ton in the entire game so it’s more than “moderately decreased mobility”. Even with track armor, the armor is nothing phenomenal as all the Fireflies have early Sherman hulls with the vulnerable driver and assistant driver bulges, except the Tipo IC which has the well known cast front. Stuff like the KV-1 L-11 and M4 don’t have much trouble against Fireflies, even though they face these tanks in full uptiers.
Beyond all that, penetration only matters if there actuall exists targets against which it matters, which isn’t really the case if you compare the 17 pounder to something like the US 76 mm at this BR, unless the 17 pounder has APDS. The M4A1 (76) sits at 5.0, and is a better vehicle than the 4.7 Fireflies.
The basic APCBC is slightly more powerful than the US 76 mm in penetration, but has no explosive filler, and its APDS was massively nerfed with the update to APDS rounds. All of that and the Comet also has a reload rate identical to that of the Panther.
As I said for the Fireflies, penetration only matters if there are targets against which it can be used.
You still can’t penetrate a Panther with PCOT-51P, even at 30 meters. You can penetrate a Jumbo upper plate if it is unangled up to about 400 meters, but that is it. And you still have the early Sherman hull with and added weight.
I do not know a single person that has bounced on it, including myself. It is a massive target flat target, and on top of that it is cast armor meaning it is 103.4 mm RHA equivalent, and you cannot angle at all as the turret side is 30 mm. For the reload you specifically picked russian cannons which generally have longer reloads for their power. You have the Nashorn at 5.3 with the long 88 which, although has less pen, has much more post pen and has a 6.67 second reload.
I do not agree with Strela to 10.0, CAS mains just want to spam their planes with no fear.