BAe Sea Harrier - Technical data and discussion

The Black line represents 18 degrees AOA. Gaijin reviewed this in full.

@FeetPics

So how is the bleed rate poor?

It will literally never slow down below 400 knots even while pulling 18 degrees AOA.

Common I need the math explainethed to mwah

While you’re at it explain to me how it can dump 60 knots a second

Need to take 6 seconds to complete a 90 degree turn and then at the end of the turn be only 100 knots slower then when you started. While you claimed it would be bleeding 60 knots a second?

Wouldn’t that result in about 337 knots of loss of speed?

Okay just to humor you.

What is the turn rate at 18 AOA and 400 knots? What is the G loading? And do you have an actual lift to drag diagram for the Harrier? Or is this whole argument just your own conjecture?

Gaijin said it right there it will be pulling like 5.25-5.35 G for 14 odd D/S

I doo, although it only goes to 16 degrees AOA.


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Yeah note how the drag coefficient is much lower in game than it is in real life. Drag causes plane to slow down. Crazy how it’s probably dramatically over performing in terms of energy retention in game.

notice how the lift coefficient is also lower then real life lol.

Wow really when I pull the instantaneous turn rate at 400 knots in game it slows down anemically yet IRL it actually could maintain that speed and ITR.

Is the engine just so much more powerful then in game?

Again can you explain to me how the harrier can achieve a low rate of turn - high rate of bleed and fall within these 2 parameters

90 degrees of turn - 100 knots of airspeed lost.

What is the reference weight in the tactical manual?

17,211 lbs

Where does it say that? Because the chart with 17211 that you like to post appears to be from a different source than the paragraph that you like to quote the bleed rate from.

No the 2 figures are both found in the Tac man

And where is it then? You keep posting snippets and not the whole thing. So for all we know you are using figures for low weight harrier and saying it’s heavy. Also wheres is 18 AoA sourced from?

Also do you know the nach number for the CL graph you are referencing?

Gaijin denied my lift report using the Natops manual and you agreed so its from there

this means you should also agree with it pulling 18 degrees AOA and never bleeding speed to less then 400 knots.

250 ft/sec so .22 mach

same missing factor

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I told you its not mine to just give away.

Ask flame as he is the one who took the time to scan it.

So only clip and share things out of context to prove your point. Yeah very smart.

Nothing is being shared out of context here lol

You just can’t admit to being wrong

Explain how it has a high bleed rate when it can pull 18 degrees AOA and never slow down below 400 knots.

Or how it bleeds tons of speed with VIFF yet only loses 100 knots for 90 degrees of turn.

Why don’t you explain it? You did say your job involves making calculations. Surely a guy who didn’t know how triangles work has the answers.

pure british cope, we made the AV-8 so much better