except he didnt
he said at 60° it will provide 50% of the HORIZONTAL component compared to the nozzle pointing completly back
which is correct
(again 10k lbs thrust for ilustrative purposes)
Again, not what that is saying.
I don’t know how you’re reading it like that. That is not what he is saying there.
That is what he is saying there, and you and the other feetpic fans have been trying to justify his mistake.
his misstake is being right about trigonometry
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I never said that 1 calculation is incorrect
I said it isn’t valid for this application.
A nozzle pointing closer to the nose can not impart the same amount of thrust both down and rewards.
It is correct?
No a harrier with its nozzle pointing closer to the nose will not achieve an equal thrust force straight down as it does straight backwards.
Huh??
You’re confusing the lift produced from the wings at speed and in a turn with the lift component of the thrust.
NO ONE HAS SAID THIS. LITERALLY NO ONE.
He said 50% OF THE INPUT THRUST, not 50/50 splits between the values of the two thrusts.
He used 50% of the thrust to calculate the harrier forward thrust component.
that is not what matrix has been argumenting against the past hour or so
he simply counldnt comprehent that angeling the nozzle 60° down will result in 50% of the horizontal thrust component
Which is correct. the value of the lift component in that case would be 86.6% of the thrust. at the same time as the forward thrust is 50% of the thrust.
The lift thrust component will be bigger than the horizontal, but the horizontal is still 50% of the input.
no like honestly
the nozzle is pointing more downwards then it is backwards
how can it give equal net thrust in both directions
iam going to post this image a 3rd time now
maybe look at it or take a math course
guess what the resulting horizontal component of 50% of the original occours past 45°
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Do you realize that the vectors of these forces are almost aligned?
I definitely didn’t understand anything here.
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Yes, the lift is also bigger, what’s so hard to understand there?
It doesn’t, and no one has said this. the lift will be 86.6% of the input and the forward will be 50% of the input.
lift bigger, horizontal still 50% of input.
If you have the nozzles at 60 degrees down relative to 90 degrees
is the harrier going to accelerate harder upwards or forwards
Up.
if total is 20k.
Thrust up will be 20,000 * 0.866 = 17,320 pounds of force.
Thrust forward will be 20,000 * 0.5 = 10,000 pounds of force. (HALF OF INPUT)
Thrust forward is half of input. Thrust up is still a lot bigger than thrust forward.
great that is the only correct answer for this application.