so you are trying to argue in circles
just read this message again
Tank any instantaneous turn rate the harrier can pull with the wing alone and then add 1-1.5 G to it to get the ITR.
This is also just for 95.5% RPM
Seeing as jet velocity and power affects the surface of the harriers wing using normal lift thrust will increase this addition of G even more. In addition to the simple fact that more gross thrust is being directed downwards.
Example problem for you:
300 Knots the wing lift will provide 3.75G giving a ITR of 13 D/S
Lowering the nozzles to 60 degrees will increase to to 1.5G at least for normal lift.
3.75+1.5= 5.25G
The Harrier using thrust vectoring to extract its maximum instantaneous turn rate will achieve 18.7 D/S at 300 knots.
Here is a plane that the Harrier can almost out-rate at sea level. But only if it has a lower fuel state.
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I don’t think you understand the math. You actually need to compare F-4E at maximum takeoff weight, calculate the inverse logarithmic function, and then compare that to the Harrier STR multiplied by a factor of 1.27x because British numbers are different than American numbers.
13 is actually bigger than 14. But only in the British Aisles and on Tuesdays.
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yeah makes sense when you say it like that
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That would certainly work
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Would honestly be hilarious a little clipboard dot that says “bullets go here”
I’ve been tempted to just stick a bit of blue tack to my screen
Better then what we got or some sharpie maybe
That’ll “damage” the screen
One of those dry erase ones maybe?
Blue tack was always the OG way of doing hardcore mode in CoD, same principle
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Haha back in the good ole days. Blue tack it is.
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Nah, the old tape with a cross hair drawn on for halo 3 LASO. I should probably have another go at two betrayals.
That reminds me I need to finish reach
this thread is really quite something
man i went a 180 turn from thinking that the harrier is awfully underperforming to being convinced that its just kinda eh
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Would be helpful if there wasn’t a troll misconstruing data to make the harrier appear much worse then it is.
IE taking a harrier at 75% - 80% internal fuel and comparing it to a starfighter with just 50% fuel
For example a harrier at 50% fuel weights only 15,500 lbs the one he used was at 17,200. You know only about 1 ton in weight difference compared to comparative fuel quantities. (A harrier with 2 x 1000 lbs bombs slapped on the wings vs the star fighter and the harrier still has some advantages pretty cool right)
He also continues to misinterpret VIFF data and sustained turn values.
Pretty sure a lighting smokes the 104 and F-4
Yet at 15,000 feet a harrier can start with a lighting behind it and using VIFF it wins or draws more then it loses
We went from harrier is on par with su-27 to harrier is worse than f-104 🥀🥀