BAe Sea Harrier - Technical data and discussion

i thought i saw a EAV8B take off from one but i might be thinking of their Hornets

By the looks of things, they dont need a ramp like the Sea Harriers I think did:

Harrier II doesn’t have Cat equipment either. AV-8B operated off Tarawas (or could) and I know that thing definitely didn’t have a Cat.
Standard procedure is something like nozzles 30, flaps at STOL, full power, and the ski jump and bernoullis do the rest for TO.

Landing, is of course, bludgeoning the laws of physics into submission, with a bit of Vertical Landing.

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Yep, ramps aren’t really necessary for any Harrier. They’re just more efficient in getting the plane in the air with a shorter takeoff roll carrying more payload and using less fuel
The US operated both the AV-8A and AV-8B from flat decks (CVs, LHDs and LHAs). They just have a bigger takeoff run. IIRC the smallest US ships that employed a Harrier air group were Iwo Jima-class LPHs that were several meters shorter than the RN’s Invincible-class

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that and also it’s somewhat safer. getting some aoa (which is effectively what you’re doing with that ramp) generates a bit more lift if you fire it through the lift equation, and if something does go sideways on launch you get a bit more time to think “time to punch out” and then actually get out.

I imagine folks have gone dormant whilst awaiting any info on if the Sea Harrier FA.2 is coming or not.
Pretty much everything in regards to guesses on weapons, performance, cockpit/radar, etc has already really been said or done

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ok, thanks

in the SAAF Gripen thread their is data on the FA2s radar

thanks, will check it out

Are the radar modes accurate on the Sea Harrier FRS1?

Currently we have 110° x 11° and 20° x 11°.

Just wondering if there is suppose to be a narrow search mode (vertically) something like a 20° x 5°. Narrower search modes exist on most other aircraft like the Sea Vixen or Buc S2B with a 100° x 5° and it would be helpful when at low alt

Isn’t supposed to be put classified documents to harrier (i feel like im not either reading or i will miss this out to this document like probably wasn’t put in google drive)

Not a clue, still waiting on the FAA museum for that.

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@Gunjob

Could the Sea Harrier F/A.2 technically have twin asraam on the splitters for 9L?
Perhaps this could open up the possibility for an “early” and “late” version in the game?

Yes ASRAAM is fully compatible with the LAU-7’s on the twin rails.

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Guessing it wouldn’t work for the belly hardpoints though (space wise that is)? Would be funny to have 8 missles on a harrier, but I’ll settle for six

Only AMRAAM and ADEN30 can be fit in those spots. As the AMRAAMs mounted there use an eject launcher rather than a rail for launching.

AMRAAM Eject Launcher;

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Stores limits;

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I really hope they model the eject launcher

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So… Will be waiting for “Late” version of F/A.2 in game, with 4 x asraam + 2 x Aim-120B =)

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Obviously I cannot comment on future additions but missile loads are a balancing choice so if there is a need its something the devs could explore for sure.

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aww shame, would have been a good laugh