BAe Sea Harrier - Technical data and discussion

Yeah, but with the inclusion of them on the Japanese tree and more pressence in the US and Italian TT. I think their flaws have started to be revealed to more people as well

Definitely and the Harrier 2 are some of the best dog fighters. Even back when they were sustaining the wrong G with twice the throttle input they should have been lol.

So after the buff the Harrier will have better TWR than the Typhoon in some conditions and will just absolutely clobber the enemy.

If they give it the thrust vectored maneuverability it would be probably the most meta dogfighting aircraft at BR 12-13

Which it certianly deserves

Yes Britain above like 9.0 just became the struggle bus for many years.
9.7-13.0 is likely going to see Britain/USA/Japan start to dominate a little vs just be free kills.

Yeah im looking forward to dusting off the Harrier Gr1, SHars, Gr7 and also buying the T10 if its at 11.7 with 9Ls

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Gr.1 with 4 missiles will be fun when you can basically choose when you want to fight someone.

You can out sustain most other planes at 9.7 too. So if you can draw a dogfight get them slow and just pull in the vertical they are stalling and you are flying straight up at 300 mph and gaining.

Y eah, just need the SRAAMs fixed

I could see that putting them up in BR pretty significantly.
One of the most maneuverable missiles in game pulls of the rail is all aspect with double the range lol. That would cause an immediate back lash.

The sheer lack of any CMs nullifies that. Besides Yak-38 is 9.3 with 4x Equal performance AAMs to SRAAMs with IRL performance

Wont be all-aspect though, That clearly is a balancing nightmare

But corrected range, fixes to the TVC at short range and maybe some better rear aspect angles., I think would be fine for 9.7, with the compression, maybe even over-BRed slightly

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That is fair.
The Yak-38 is such a weird plane to place as it’s just so bad.

Yeah, it is. but I do wonder which Id prefer. Yak-38 with 4x R-60 at 9.3 or old Gr1 FM with 4x buggy SRAAMs at 9.7

In SB at the very least . I think I would find more fun with the Yak-38

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Yes Yak-38 is much better than Old Gr.1 as it is faster and has better weapons.

They Still have not fixed the IR issues lol its now worse than before.

Make the mouse aim aoa limit higher and relate to the av8a flight manual max load limit.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/GRvzP3u9zOXg

Yeah, not surprised. By increasing the thrust, they have just made the harriers hotter.

@Gunjob has a suggestion to mitigate the Harrier’s heat issues using the F-117 code been passed onto the devs? If not, would a bug report outlining the issue and potential solution be worthwhile for me to submit?

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Indeed they have I would like it if they changed the double CM drop to a singular one to so I only pop one flare and not 2.

Just in case there is any doubt about the FRS1’s missing symbology, this passage caught my eye when listening to the audiobook tonight at work

Screenshot 2025-03-03 201655

100% confirmation of IR symbology

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Yeah, that may help, at least you could pre-flare more

I can add to this.
Not only does it have an IR marker it has a ranging unit that will tell if the missile has enough range IIRC.

It should also have a vector indicator as where the plane is going and where the nose is pointing are very different.



Ah nice, the radar UI already has that, but it is nice to have it on the HUD as well