BAe Harrier II (UK versions) - Technical data and discussion

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2161

The RAF Harriers also had it too. There’s a guy on TikTok that flew in a Harrier for a documentary or series. I think he was from either the BBC or ITV. But in there you can see on the HUD NAVFLIR in action.

There’s this clip on YouTube showing it in action with the GR7.

https://youtu.be/Ircmp_SVt6E?si=DP-QSyxMtfF5yQxx

[Edit] Found the guy on TikTok, James Blatch. Fantastic look at the T.10 from the rear seat. He’s got a few clips on TikTok on it and theres also the full video on YouTube. (You can also see NAVFLIR working on the HUD throughout the clips and the video.)

TikTok - James Blatch - Part 1

YouTube

https://youtu.be/ypAR_CmWaTc?si=SWnZo75vAvCvGZkl

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2162

Whatever was done to the harrier needs to be reverted.

Its a wobbly mess… i only bought it last month and was enjoying flying it. Now its broken.

Loadouts etc are cool but i cant even aim the gun anymore.

2163

People will fight you on that but I agree with you that they should just give us the proper FM and raise all Harriers up by 7 whole BRs so that they are balanced

2164

Im not asking for a cracked version but whatever they changed has made it impossible to fly.

This cant be right or realistic

2165

It’s not but someone likely got upset again so they needed to buff or break the Harriers in some way again

2166

Lols. It looks like its sadly how it works.

Buy the harrier and weeks later its nerfed to the point i cant even aim it anymore.

Do gajin just change numbers and call it a day? Nobody can fly the harrier and think yh this is it.

2167

You are very clearly new to this. Besides the fact that you say you just bought it. I can tell by you fighting will that the Harriers will be a struggle for you but it is all pointless :(

2168

Iv got 500+ games at a guess in the 9.7 GB tree version.

I know the harrier isnt meta. But you can kill any plane that gets caught in the harriers low speed trap.

This change to the AV8 harrier has made it wobble to the point its impossible to even aim. Like WTF man

2169

The buff is accurate and it has a lot more yet to come, but I think they messed something up with the rudder. Its the issue of fixing the FM in drips and drabs rather than doing it properly

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2170

This cant be realistic

Nobody surely designs a jet that can only aim at 90 degree angles without having a fit?

Have you tried the AV8? It wasnt bad before the last “buff”
The best way to describe it is trying to aim while in a lv 10 earth quake

2171

I’ve played a fair bit of the FRS1e grinding the event in SB and didnt notice any issues. Though that is currently lacking any and all gunsight.

2172

Its hard to not notice.

So aiming left right up down is ok. If the wings are level/ turned 90 respectivly

Aiming anywhere else = jet gets the wobbles. At slower speed its comically bad.

2173

so your harrier isnt doing this the full game?

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2174

Harrier GR7 isnt, at least not percievably.

In that clip you have quite a heavy warload in the AV-8B(NA)? So that might have a factor, Its hard for me to test properly due not owning it (and therefore no decently heavy loadout with a gun by default)

I think im getting something similar, but I think its an instructor issue not a harrier issue as it is entirely and completely eliminated when in Full controls using a HOTAS (with and without damping)

So i’ll do some more testing and work on a report but I think whats happening is that the Rudder is over compensating with a heavy warload

Edit: re-tested GR7 with its heaviest possble warload and I did get it a bit.

Edit2: tested FRS1 with max fuel and warload, nothing, so I think its a Harrier II issue

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2175

Think you are right.

The loadout makes it miles worse… still funky without but nowhere near as bad.

2176

Yeah so what I guess is that when they adjusted the FM they failed to adjust some other part of the code and its overcompensating

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2177

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/HG2su2qBHUg9

@tokerstar

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2178

Very nice

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2179

Just an honest question, what are the differences between the AV-8B(NA) and Harrier GR7 that make the AV-8B(NA) 555 kg heavier? Their engines way the same in the current build of War Thunder and the two have very similar flight models, sharing some metrics. However, the Harrier GR7 far out-performs the AV-8B(NA) in turn performance, from what I can gather, because of the difference in weight; despite the AV-8B(NA) having 820 kgf more thrust with its engine.

Not complaining, just looking for insight incase I may have missed something.

2180

I’m pretty sure the av-8b is far too light if i remember right, should be much heavier. anyways the av8b was reinforced in order to carry much more ordinance over the gr7